Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BootinUp

(47,186 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:30 AM Apr 4

Terrified Parents, New Age Health Nuts, MAGA Exiles -- Meet the R.F.K. Jr. Faithful


By Michelle Goldberg

Chris Inclan, an alcohol and drug counselor from Sonoma, Calif., voted for the Green Party candidate Jill Stein in 2016. In 2020, he backed Andrew Yang in the Democratic primary, and then cast a ballot for Donald Trump in the general election. Joe Biden, he said, was “so ingrained in the establishment and politics as usual,” while Trump “went against the grain on a lot of issues,” including wars and government regulation. But Inclan, a big bearded 39-year-old with tattoos on his hands, doesn’t want to have to make that choice again, which is why he’s now enthusiastically supporting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

I met Inclan at the Oakland rally where Kennedy introduced his new running mate, the 38-year-old political donor Nicole Shanahan. Held in the auditorium of the Henry J. Kaiser Center for the Arts, it was the first political rally Inclan had ever attended.

“The system is corrupt,” he said of what he called the two-party “duopoly.” “We keep playing the same game. But I think Americans are fed up.” He’d joined Kennedy’s We the People Party, formed to help Kennedy get on the ballot in several states, and has aspirations to run for office himself someday.


Three men hold up signs in support of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Setting up banners at Kennedy’s campaign event in Oakland, Calif., to announce his pick for a running mate.
Inclan’s politics are hard to understand in purely left or right terms. The more relevant dichotomy, for him as for many Kennedy voters, is insider versus outsider, which is why Kennedy’s following sometimes overlaps, in unexpected ways, with the MAGA movement.


Continued at New York Times - Gift Link
13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Walleye

(31,045 posts)
2. I don't really understand this complaint against the "establishment"
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:39 AM
Apr 4

They don’t come out and say it but they think that batshit crazy is better than the sane boring government. I think it is mainly because they have it too easy and they are bored with their lives. I only wish we could get the “establishment” back

dutch777

(3,035 posts)
5. Yes, and somehow people keep thinking the President alone can change things carte blanche. You still have....
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:49 AM
Apr 4

...that pesky House and Senate legislative stuff to deal with. And it is not like Kennedy has a party aligned to him with its own slate for House and Senate. People are really dumb on how the system works.

patphil

(6,207 posts)
3. Wow! There's so many idiots out there.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:45 AM
Apr 4

What do they want their government to do?
I think they want to be entertained, not governed.

marble falls

(57,204 posts)
6. A vote for Kennedy is a vote for the GOP. This is not the election that will have a viable third party candidate.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 10:12 AM
Apr 4

Walleye

(31,045 posts)
8. Never is. There is never been a third-party candidate to even win one state in my lifetime
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 10:29 AM
Apr 4

These idiots think they’re going to change all that?

marble falls

(57,204 posts)
10. there's been local elections that Green or indendents have taken, but the national election laws do no favor ...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 10:42 AM
Apr 4

... a more than three party election except to spoil. One thing is that in a three way race, the winner has a simple majority to win, when it should be a minimum 51% to win with a runoff otherwise. Without revamping election laws - I'd like to see a "none of the above" selection with more power, if none of the above wins or or places in a three way race, make the parties come up with a new slate. - third parties are more a weapon than clear choice.

marble falls

(57,204 posts)
11. I belive RFK Jr draws more from Libertarians and Republicans than from Joe Biden and the Democratic party.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 10:44 AM
Apr 4

lees1975

(3,879 posts)
13. So, what it looks like is
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 01:11 PM
Apr 5

that Kennedy is another MAGAt. And polls that show Kennedy's support on the high side, and taking from Biden, are, as we suspected, bullshit.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Editorials & Other Articles»Terrified Parents, New Ag...