I work with dying Trump supporters. It's...confusing
Im driving down a gravel road in rural North Carolina, looking at mailbox numbers. A hospice social worker, Im headed to meet Petey, a patient dying of metastatic cancer. When Id called his wife Jackie to schedule our first visit, shed told me theyd been married more than 60 years. I cant believe this is happening, shed said, her voice heavy with sadness. I dont know how Im going to make it in this world when hes gone.
A few homes down I see a ranch style house with a Trump flag hanging limp from what looks like a homemade flagpole. Hell no, not that one, I think, before realizing the number Im looking for is on a grey mailbox at a driveway leading to that very house.
My eyes harden with anger. A thought pops into my head that Im not proud of. Good, hell be dead by November. One less vote for that bloated orange fascist.
As I roll down the driveway, my mind lights up with stereotypes about the people I am about to meet. Stupid. Gullible. Easily manipulated. Incapable of critical thinking. Racist. Willing to rationalize and/or cheer on violence against people they have dehumanized (Blacks, Muslims, people in the LGBTQ community). I assume they dont give a damn about democracy and are likely to have negative judgments about progressive-minded people like me (I fail to see the irony).
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/4/6/2233194/-I-work-with-dying-Trump-supporters-It-s-confusing
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)Highly recommend.
jimfields33
(15,948 posts)It reiterated what I knew that hospice workers are the best.
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)about your determination, your ability to put aside your negative feelings, and do your job leaves me feeling in awe of your strength and determination! This story told here is humbling, and very pointed, and stirred up very strong emotions in me when I read it. If true, I'm glad that they shared their story w/ all of us.
We must keep the faith! One day, this abject failure of a human being, djt, will be gone. I can already see multitudes of people flocking to the streets when tRUMP kicks the bucket, and the massive burst of joy throughout the land on what has been a curse to afflict this land of ours is finally gone, and his toxic spew of hate and everything else that comes along w/ it will be gone. The days of spewing hate, and all other such tools of tRUMP's foul tradecraft will be gone.
tanyev
(42,610 posts)Even though I cannot understand why they believe and support Trump and Republican lies, I still want them to have good healthcare and education, food security and a safe job that pays a livable wage.
Many of them seem to want to punish me and fellow liberals by taking things away and are even willing to give up things that make their own lives better in order to hurt us.
BaronChocula
(1,584 posts)Literally. Years of listening to Limbaugh and the like has convinced them to hate everything liberal, to conquer everything liberal, to destroy everything liberal and they bought into it. That's what has killed bipartisanship. There's been no comparative media entity on the progressive side, not to say that progressives would even accept that sort of claptrap whose only purpose is to stir up hate.
Biophilic
(3,691 posts)Its well worth the time to read. I read it this morning and am still mulling it over as ever now and again a thought generated by it jumps into my conscious thinking.
J_William_Ryan
(1,756 posts)Agreed.
And it illustrates the sophistication and compassion of progressives; the fundamental liberal principle of respecting each individual and his right to self-determination, no matter how much we may disagree.
But we didnt start this war.
Trump and his supporters represent an imminent, existential threat to democracy, the rule of law, the Constitution, and the country itself no matter how naive, gullible, delusional, or victimized by Trumps fearmongering and lies and his rhetoric of violence, racism, bigotry, fear, and hate.
And however distasteful or unfortunate, liberals need to fight this war to defend democracy and the rule of law, including fighting against Trumps ignorant, weak-minded, victimized supporters.
louis-t
(23,297 posts)The way they have been programmed, words trigger them. Situations trigger them. I deal with maga all the time in my business. A situation, a word, a phrase comes up, and the look on their face changes. It can get really ugly. They start repeating the latest maga phrase, as if hypnotized. They're like little sleeper cells.
The Wizard
(12,547 posts)a new generation was singing Martha and the Vandellas "Dancing in the Street.
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)To some extent, she lived those words every day she went to work.
Ask any Nurse.
sop
(10,243 posts)Thanks for posting it.
Deep State Witch
(10,457 posts)It comes for us all, no matter what our beliefs or affiliations.
Warpy
(111,338 posts)Another is that we're all sinners, we just justify our own while pointing fingers at other people.
Another is that we've all been suckered at one point or another in our lives and we're all pretty ashamed of it when we finally figure it all out. The conceit is that we'll never get suckered again. But we do.
Another is that none of us get to make the rules for anyone else, something that annoys those of us who wore scrubs with stethoscopes around our necks. People are ornery and we're not omniscient.
We're just now starting to see how differently our brains can be wired and we know from longitudinal studies that the behaviors start in early childhood. Dr. Robert Sapolsky has gone far in the other direction, positing that there's no real thing as free will.
Well, I think there is. While we're hard wired to be who we are and what we feel comfortable with in our lives, the free will come in how we choose to react to people outside our area of greatest comfort.
And that's what keeps the people in scrubs with stethoscopes around their necks this side of sanity. Well, that and becoming slectively deaf to TVs in patient rooms.
nature-lover
(1,470 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,456 posts)I'm assuming the social worker is also white, non Trans, and probably non Hispanic, and is welcomed to offer this dying man and his family support. It doesn't change their choice to not only support Trump, but to advertise that they do so. This also is a truth.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)That's a gobsmacking powerful point.
It reminded me of the book "When Prophecy Fails" by Leon Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter.
harumph
(1,913 posts)...and thus laugh and cry and mourn like all of us. But they are unknowlegeable, incurious and judgmental people - full stop.
They're lunatics with "guns" and their "bullets" are votes. I'm actually relieved (not grave dancing but just g-damned relieved) when a Trump voter dies because their ability to get to the polls and vote may be a life and death situation for many of us. If Trump wins most any of us with 10 - 30 years of living left is going to be FUCKED. Sorry if that's harsh because it's the reality folks.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)I grew up an atheist in Mormon Utah. I finally learned all I can do is show people, by example, I am not what the think liberal atheists are.
And I told them at my retirement party when I said: I hope I'm remembered not only for what I did here but who I was, a Democrat and an atheist that you liked in spike of that.
I got a round of applause.
Hekate
(90,789 posts)Just trying to get back to our common humanity
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Seinan Sensei
(366 posts)Programs are initiated by Progressives for those who are dying.
Even for those who adore TSF.
Even for those who vote Republican.
Republicans have no program of care beyond, "Feel sickly? Then die quickly!"
shrike3
(3,783 posts)Perusing photographs from that era is eerie. Germans enjoying sunny days in the park. On their way to get a Christmas tree. Such pictures even come out of Dachau. Staff enjoying the holidays.
I loved the essay and agreed with a lot of his points. But good people are capable of terrible things. It's happened all through history and it will happen again.
"nice, hard-working" people like this helped give us Donald Fucking Trump - I cannot forgive them, they DISGRACED America - and they have access to the same information we all do