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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,318 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:58 PM Apr 23

When it comes to Trump Supreme Court bid for immunity, his test case is Richard Nixon

WASHINGTON ? At landmark arguments Thursday in Donald Trump's longshot Supreme Court bid for presidential immunity, his test case is Richard Nixon.

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An Air Force weapons analyst had sued Nixon, claiming he’d been fired in retaliation for telling Congress about massive cost overruns in the Defense Department.

A closely divided Supreme Court said in 1982 Nixon couldn’t be held liable for official actions because civil suits would be too distracting for a president and make him unnecessarily cautious when carrying out his responsibilities.

Now the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments April 25 on whether that same logic should apply to Trump’s attempt to throw out the federal criminal charges he attempted to steal the 2020 election.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comes-trump-supreme-court-bid-090624178.html

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When it comes to Trump Supreme Court bid for immunity, his test case is Richard Nixon (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 23 OP
Then again, Us V. Nixon 8-0 ... viva la Apr 23 #1
" couldn't be held liable for official actions" bucolic_frolic Apr 23 #2
The only precedent is Nixon, and that's why Chump loses FakeNoose Apr 23 #3
Trump is not President now. This rationality is void. We can now distract Trump sanatanadharma Apr 24 #4
Looking back: The Supreme Court decision that ended Nixon's presidency Passages Apr 24 #5

viva la

(3,350 posts)
1. Then again, Us V. Nixon 8-0 ...
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:07 PM
Apr 23

affirmed that the president MUST obey the courts and also the congressional subpoena... that is, checks and balances.

bucolic_frolic

(43,375 posts)
2. " couldn't be held liable for official actions"
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:12 PM
Apr 23
official

Insurrection, conspiracies to fudge election results, fake electors, lobbying state officials for more votes .... these are not official duties.

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
3. The only precedent is Nixon, and that's why Chump loses
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:07 PM
Apr 23

Chump doesn't have a hope of winning the "presidential immunity" argument because ...

... in August 1974 Nixon asked for and received a blanket pardon from Gerald Ford. It was Ford's first act once he was secretly sworn in as the new president, after Nixon secretly resigned.

That's it, end of story. If Nixon or any other President had "presidential immunity" then there would be no need for a pardon.

sanatanadharma

(3,740 posts)
4. Trump is not President now. This rationality is void. We can now distract Trump
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 07:13 AM
Apr 24

"... too distracting for a president and make him unnecessarily cautious when carrying out his responsibilities."

Trump is not President now. This rationality is void.

Passages

(181 posts)
5. Looking back: The Supreme Court decision that ended Nixon's presidency
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 09:16 AM
Apr 24

It was on this day in 1974 that the U.S. Supreme Court dealt a fatal blow to President Richard Nixon’s presidency, in a decision that led to the release of the Watergate tapes.



The case of United States v. Nixon reached the Court on July 8, 1974, after it had concluded its prior term. The Justices found themselves in new territory as the Court had to deal with an executive privilege claim filed by President Nixon’s attorneys.

A grand jury had returned indictments against seven Nixon aides, including former Attorney General John Mitchell, as part of the Watergate investigation. Leon Jaworski, a special prosecutor appointed by President Nixon, and the seven defendants wanted access to audio tapes of conversations recorded by President Nixon in the White House.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/anniversary-of-united-states-v-nixon


I hope they do the right thing.

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