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lees1975

(3,888 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 03:14 PM Apr 26

It's time to pack the Supreme Court. And I think that might be possible.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/04/its-time-to-pack-supreme-court.html

The political nature of the Supreme Court is telling us that the time has come for the Democrats in the Senate to pack the court with justices who are committed to the rule of law. Impeachment and removal of corrupt and incompetent justices like Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh and Neal Gorsuch is the best way to go, but with the sharp partisan wall that now exists in Congress, getting a two thirds majority would require Republicans voting with integrity instead of by their politically driven opinion, and there aren't enough Republicans with integrity left, if any at all, for that to happen.

So, packing the court with more justices, by amending the Judiciary act, is the only recourse.

In a legal system, justice system and government that is committed to cumbersome procedures which make it difficult to do anything quickly, this can be done fast enough to stop the current chaos and confusion of the Roberts court, and save the rule of law before this court destroys it. With the vote of Vice-President Harris there if necessary, this could be done in a matter of a month or so. Whether it will be, or whether it would even be considered, is uncertain. I'm just adding this voice to those who are now calling for it to happen.

Visionary leadership requires taking bold, courageous steps to make things happen which sometimes result in saving the country from disaster. And this is one of those steps.
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It's time to pack the Supreme Court. And I think that might be possible. (Original Post) lees1975 Apr 26 OP
Who can do this? is the writer in a position to put all this in place? Srkdqltr Apr 26 #1
It's the current Judiciary Act which authorizes the existence of the Supreme Court and prescribes the number of lees1975 Apr 26 #4
My point exactly. It sounds good but the reality of it changing anytime soon is not. Srkdqltr Apr 26 #6
All it takes is majorities in both houses, and a Dem in the WH Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #14
You think Whirmer? Wouldn't that be excellent. Can't we keep her in Michigan? Srkdqltr Apr 26 #15
Whitmer has governed progressively without fear or hesitation, and with the slimmest of majorities Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #18
It will then end up in the courts Wednesdays Apr 26 #16
Nope Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #17
We need 51 or more votes in the senate IbogaProject Apr 26 #20
Are you saying we should give up Iwasthere Apr 26 #9
No. It should be done. But the author offers no direction. Change is always Srkdqltr Apr 26 #12
This could be done now. lees1975 Apr 26 #19
That opportunity was lost in 2016. 33taw Apr 26 #2
Thank you, your post answered many of my questions. n/t SheilaAnn Apr 26 #3
Delusion and fantasy bucolic_frolic Apr 26 #5
People who want this had better stop using the word "pack". Mister Ed Apr 26 #7
Agree leftieNanner Apr 26 #8
Agree heartily. The court's already been packed via extreme partisan action. n/t Beartracks Apr 26 #10
We need to "unpack the court", that is to expand the court. Earth-shine Apr 28 #23
I think that it's time. This particular 'packed' court is standing in the way of true justice, by kneeling at djt's SWBTATTReg Apr 26 #11
I believe this court is absolutely capable of handing it to tRump in November Iwasthere Apr 26 #13
I like Pete Buttigieg's Proposal oldguy_tls Apr 26 #21
please say expand the court. it is already packed prodigitalson Apr 27 #22
Integrity demands this. lees1975 Apr 28 #24

Srkdqltr

(6,333 posts)
1. Who can do this? is the writer in a position to put all this in place?
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 03:18 PM
Apr 26

probably not likely. This sounds good but when you get down to ..who can do this? There is no answer.

lees1975

(3,888 posts)
4. It's the current Judiciary Act which authorizes the existence of the Supreme Court and prescribes the number of
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 03:25 PM
Apr 26

justices. That would have to be amended. To do so would require a majority vote of the senate, which means the filibuster would have to be abolished, so that the act could be amended. Then, once the number of judges has been amended, the President's appointments could be voted in by a simple majority.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,669 posts)
14. All it takes is majorities in both houses, and a Dem in the WH
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 04:09 PM
Apr 26

Along with the political will and courage.

That’s why the following three items should be litmus tests for all Dem candidates:

1) support codifying Roe/repealing Comstock Act
2) support expanding SCOTUS to at least 13 seats, with enforceable ethics rules
3) support killing the filibuster to pass 1 and 2

If Biden can’t get this done in his second term, give President Whitmer House and Senate majorities in 2029, and she will.

Srkdqltr

(6,333 posts)
15. You think Whirmer? Wouldn't that be excellent. Can't we keep her in Michigan?
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 04:19 PM
Apr 26

She is impressive.

I hope and will back all these needed changes.
There needs to be a plan.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,669 posts)
18. Whitmer has governed progressively without fear or hesitation, and with the slimmest of majorities
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 04:31 PM
Apr 26

She will be termed out in 2028, IIRC, (or is it 2026?) so what better time for her to take the next logical step?

There needs to be a plan


The plan is to only elect Democrats who will govern as fearlessly and unhesitatingly as Whitmer has, and who support killing the filibuster to pass things like court expansion, reproductive rights, etc.

Wednesdays

(17,439 posts)
16. It will then end up in the courts
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 04:21 PM
Apr 26

A huge fight that will eventually be decided...by...guess what body of nine members?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,669 posts)
17. Nope
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 04:28 PM
Apr 26

The size of the court has expanded and contracted over the lifetime of the Constitution- the members of SCOTUS cannot obstruct a law that regulates them or the number of seats on the court.

If the act passes, Biden fills the new vacancies, and the other justices have no say.

IbogaProject

(2,845 posts)
20. We need 51 or more votes in the senate
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:00 PM
Apr 26

Basic frost hurdle is enough yes voting senators who would approve discarding the filibuster. This term we only had 50 and have had to cooperate w the GOP on rules. We will need 51 yes votes on ditching the filibuster. Then we will need a good house majority. It's a nice 'idea', but a lot has to happen for it to be enacted. We need to focus on Get Out The Vote, we can worry about cool schemes after the election.

Iwasthere

(3,171 posts)
9. Are you saying we should give up
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 03:37 PM
Apr 26

I posted a similar post earlier. Most said it just cannot be done. That's BS! With a few repubs help the process can begin (I know there are some of them that are now disgusted). I personally don't believe Biden should wait till after the election. With the supreme court we have now I no longer trust our chances like I did just a week ago. Take off the gloves, imo. If there's enough of an uproar perhaps the message will reach President Biden and/or his staff. I would hope it already has. But we CANNOT stay quiet anymore. Perhaps we need a "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore " moment across the country. We h as ve been frogs in a pot. Little by little we have come very close to losing our Democracy. We must think outside the box. They certainly are.

lees1975

(3,888 posts)
19. This could be done now.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 05:22 PM
Apr 26

Easy steps. 1. Break the filibuster, which requires just a simple majority vote in the Senate. That's pulling a trigger, but it takes that every now and then to get things done. 2. The senate amends the judiciary act to increase the number of seats on the Supreme Court by majority vote. One vote is a majority. That means either Sinema or Manchin plus Kamala Harris. Or just lame duck Sinema and Manchin. Manchin can finally do one beneficial, Democratic party supported thing before he goes off into oblivion, never to be seen in politics again. 3. The President appoints judges to fill the new vacancies, requiring just a one vote majority.

Mister Ed

(5,944 posts)
7. People who want this had better stop using the word "pack".
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 03:29 PM
Apr 26

The Supreme Court has already been packed. Those who want to right that wrong had better damn well stop saying, "Let's pack the Court!"

Fair-minded people of all political persuasions will recoil at proposals to "pack" the Court. If the proposal is framed that way, it will not only fail, but it will drag down Democrats in general.

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
11. I think that it's time. This particular 'packed' court is standing in the way of true justice, by kneeling at djt's
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 03:46 PM
Apr 26

feet, as smelly as they are, and they are blatantly ignorant of protocol, when a Justice is biased and won't excuse himself. I just lost all respect for the Supreme Court, and I don't trust them at all. They will rule on minority positions in their favor, ignoring the vast majority of us. They don't represent the rule of the land. They represent themselves. Have they lost their sense of way, their purpose in upholding the law instead of making new law as they seem to be doing?

oldguy_tls

(9 posts)
21. I like Pete Buttigieg's Proposal
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 07:52 PM
Apr 26

While he was a candidate for the Democratic Party's nomination for President in 2020 he proposed expanding the court to 15 with 5 each reserved for the Democratic and Republican party to nominate and five that had to be agreed upon by the other 10 justics. Now THAT'S fair and balanced.

On the other hand, my (tongue-in-cheek) proposal is six bullets, 3 resignations and the swift confirmation of 9 twenty-something ultra-liberal justices. That should fix the problem for over 50 years.

lees1975

(3,888 posts)
24. Integrity demands this.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 10:10 AM
Apr 28

If the three Trump appointees were really interested in preserving the court's integrity, and in enforcing the rule of law, they would have recused themselves from this case. The fact that they haven't completely discredits them as attorneys and judges.

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