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shrike3

(3,904 posts) Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:43 AM Apr 29

Tiedrich: the New York Times can piss up a rope.

AG Sulzberger, can we talk? can I call you Arthur? look, Artie, there’s an election coming up. it’s just six months away. one guy wants to continue to lead a democracy. the other guy wants to be a Day One Dictator. you think you’re settling a score with Joe Biden? just wait until Donny Fuckface settles his score with you.

hey Art, have you seen the recent reports about how during his his presidency, Donald Trump used to openly talk about having his enemies executed?

do you think that shit’s going to change if Donny regains power and all the guardrails of democracy are removed? no sir, it’s only going to get worse. pick up a history book and read about what happens to the media under fascist regimes.

now I’m sure you’re going to hand me some bullshit line about “newspapers should impartially report on the candidates,” but for fuck’s sake, you’re not even doing that right now. to hell with impartiality — if you can tip the scales against Biden and call it journalism, you can sure as shit tip the scales for Biden.

https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/the-new-york-times-can-piss-up-a

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Tiedrich: the New York Times can piss up a rope. (Original Post) shrike3 Apr 29 OP

At the very least, the Times should tip the scales for democracy dlk Apr 29 #1

If they'd just report the news truthfully PatSeg Apr 29 #3

Indeed dlk Apr 29 #16

That age-old thought process Mr. Evil Apr 29 #2

Sulzberger is a descendant of Arthur Ochs, who bought the Times in 1896. Lonestarblue Apr 29 #4

I'm guessing there were some "transactional" messages being exchanged during the July 20, 2018 meeting erronis Apr 29 #10

I have run into many DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #5

I canceled my subscription earlier this year. ShazzieB Apr 29 #7

I've cancelled a couple of times over the last 2-3 years and then finally a few months ago erronis Apr 29 #11

My beef with the Times, long before this situation was its ivory tower sensibility. shrike3 Apr 29 #13

No idea who this is. brooklynite Apr 29 #6

He has no idea who you are SocialDemocrat61 Apr 29 #8

But I'm not posting opinions for his consideration. brooklynite Apr 29 #15

Well neither is he SocialDemocrat61 Apr 29 #17

And it was the author from the other site I was questioning. brooklynite Apr 29 #18

I know SocialDemocrat61 Apr 29 #19

Tiedrich's stuff has been posted on DU for well over a year, I think. shrike3 Apr 29 #9

It's ok. I've seen that type of reply on other posts in the past. Easy to ignore. erronis Apr 29 #12

Thanks. n/t shrike3 Apr 29 #14

dlk

(11,606 posts)

1. At the very least, the Times should tip the scales for democracy

Reply to shrike3 (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 01:50 PM

Apr 29

Sulzberger lives in an ivory tower.

PatSeg

(47,780 posts)

3. If they'd just report the news truthfully

Reply to dlk (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:15 PM

Apr 29

and impartially, they wouldn't have to tip the scales. The facts will defeat Donald Trump if the media put them out there consistently and accurately.

dlk

(11,606 posts)

16. Indeed

Reply to PatSeg (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:48 PM

Apr 29

Mr. Evil

(2,868 posts)

2. That age-old thought process

Reply to shrike3 (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 01:58 PM

Apr 29

of, if you're nice to a bully they'll be nice to you. Bullies are never nice to their victims until they're smacked down.

Lonestarblue

(10,191 posts)

4. Sulzberger is a descendant of Arthur Ochs, who bought the Times in 1896.

Reply to shrike3 (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:17 PM

Apr 29

The Times has been controlled by a member of the family ever since. Here’s a tidbit that may explain why Sulzberger has been bashing Biden. From Wikipedia:

“Sulzberger met with President Donald Trump at the White House on July 20, 2018. The meeting was off-the-record, but after President Trump tweeted about it eight days later, Sulzberger "pushed back hard" to dispute the President's characterization of the meeting. Sulzberger said in a statement that at the meeting, he "told the president directly that I thought that his [anti-press] language was not just divisive but increasingly dangerous. I warned that this inflammatory language is contributing to a rise in threats against journalists and will lead to violence."[37][38][39] Sulzberger met with President Trump in the Oval Office a second time, on January 31, 2019, for an on-the-record interview along with Times reporters Peter Baker and Maggie Haberman.[40][41]”

Perhaps he’s in a snit because he was important enough for Trump to meet with him twice while Biden hasn’t met with him at all.

erronis

(15,486 posts)

10. I'm guessing there were some "transactional" messages being exchanged during the July 20, 2018 meeting

Reply to Lonestarblue (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:59 PM

Apr 29

Some quid-pro-quo that including Haberman and Baker get juicy tidbits from the regime (scoops) and promising to sway his editors/reporters into a pro-trump news but always saying "we are impartial."

NYC business conducted in back rooms.

DENVERPOPS

(8,903 posts)

5. I have run into many

Reply to shrike3 (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:29 PM

Apr 29

who, in the past month or two, have cancelled their online subscription to the NYT. Including me.........Occasionally you have a good or well written article, but the Right Wing Shit you publish is so despicable that it isn't worth sorting thru all that shit to get to the small part that is worthwhile.......

Their "right" side representation just got too radical and extreme, and 100% of the time was totally off the wall........

You were trying to do the "both sides now" to increase your Right readership........HEY, the right don't view or read anything that ain't Fox News or RW Radio. Period. So, nice job, you lost countless Left readers, and never gained off setting numbers of Right like you thought you would.......

ShazzieB

(16,678 posts)

7. I canceled my subscription earlier this year.

Reply to DENVERPOPS (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:47 PM

Apr 29

I was looking for ways to cut some corners now that my husband's retired, and the NYT was an easy choice. No, it won't save me a fortune, but every little bit helps.

Haven't missed it, except once in a while when I Google something, and one of the hits is a NYT article that looks interesting. I can live with that.

erronis

(15,486 posts)

11. I've cancelled a couple of times over the last 2-3 years and then finally a few months ago

Reply to DENVERPOPS (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 03:02 PM

Apr 29

If there is any decent reporting coming from their shop it will show up in other formats elsewhere.

It's really too bad since I want to support "the press" but I don't want to reward unfair reporting.

shrike3

(3,904 posts)

13. My beef with the Times, long before this situation was its ivory tower sensibility.

Reply to DENVERPOPS (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 29, 2024, 03:06 PM

Apr 29

Tons of lifestyle articles on people who were so unlike average Americans. Who had concerns that were of no concern at all to average Americans. I got tired of stories about very wealthy people debating about whether they should allow their kids to pick their third or fourth vacation home. Or the story about ivy league women decided to stay home instead of pursing a career. All well and good, but many an average woman has no choice about whether to pursue a career. Or even to stay home. Or even to pursue a career in lieu of taking a job to pay the bill.

Then there was the wedding story -- do they still do that? For a while they had a feature, how they met stories. Newly married couples recounted their courtship. Not a bad idea. But one day they decided to feature a couple who'd met while married and broke up their families. I understand that happens, and I know I can't judge. But to make it a feature. They ran a picture with themselves and their children, his and hers. The kids were so glum while Mom and Dad partied hearty. Ick. Anyways, I've had issues with the Times for a while.