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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:29 PM Feb 2012

Rick Santorum Says He’d Criminally Charge Abortion Providers





4:47 pm, February 18th
Rick Santorum Says He’d Criminally Charge Abortion Providers

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The 2011 clip, which Buzzfeed dug up, shows Santorum on “Meet The Press.” In it, he claims that abortion-providing doctors should face legal consequences:

“I believe that life begins at conception. And that that life should be guaranteed under the constitution… I would advocate that any doctor that performs an abortion should be criminally charged for doing so.”


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http://www.thejanedough.com/rick-santorum-criminally-charge-abortion-doctors/


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Rick Santorum Says He’d Criminally Charge Abortion Providers (Original Post) Tx4obama Feb 2012 OP
Women Will Be Next TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #1
that is understood when he says something that stupid niyad Feb 2012 #3
But they won't actually say it. NYC Liberal Feb 2012 #7
If abortion is murder? Santorum's logic commits him to arrest women who get abortions, as murderers Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #12
abortion is abortion papa3times Feb 2012 #14
He also believes birth control is abortion Generic Other Feb 2012 #25
Oh, they're smart enough to know that women will suffer plenty if the docs are threatened! CTyankee Feb 2012 #24
hey, froth boy, in case you didn't notice, ABORTION IS STILL LEGAL niyad Feb 2012 #2
Remember What Newt Said TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #5
Reframe your comment. Ilsa Feb 2012 #6
But the doctor who performed his wife's abortion . . . proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #4
Rick is a theocrat. Galraedia Feb 2012 #8
Or Ayatollah. Or "Theo-Con" as they were called; theological neo-con. Or "American Taliban." Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #19
Repukkks will lose in 2012........ Grassy Knoll Feb 2012 #9
This is why our guy leads among single women by more than a 2/1 margin. Bette Noir Feb 2012 #10
That's what being "pro-life" means. David__77 Feb 2012 #11
Hey little Ricky, in this country, abortion is LEGAL center rising Feb 2012 #13
..And any boy who performs masturbation should be prosecuted for killing sperm. joanbarnes Feb 2012 #15
"Every sperm is sacred," the Church tried to say, c. 1950-66 Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #20
He misquoted the Constitution. ChadwickHenryWard Feb 2012 #16
Then too? Only persons have rights; and Roe v. Wade sec. IX, stipulates embryo is not a person Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #21
So he supports the Death Penalty for doctors who provide abortions ... ? zbdent Feb 2012 #17
So he will be judge and jury, convicting people of a crime... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #18
Its not a crime - yet. But a dozens states are trying to declare the embryo a full human "person." Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #22
Such laws will be challenged under Roe v Wade MarkCharles Feb 2012 #23

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
12. If abortion is murder? Santorum's logic commits him to arrest women who get abortions, as murderers
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:05 AM
Feb 2012

Right now, Ricky Santorum is saying that he will 1) first, legally prosecute abortion doctors.

The next step though? 2) Logically, if the embryo is a full human person, then killing one is murder. So that? Santorum is logically committed next, to prosecute doctors as ... murderers.

And then? Though HE DISAVOWS this LOGICAL OUTCOME, I suppose he would also, by his own fatal logic, be bound to 3) prosecute the millions of women that get abortions, as murderesses.

Here's the logic: if embryos are persons, and an abortion kills them, then an abortion kills a person. Therefore, abortion is murder. And since it is murder? It must be prosecuted.

So next? Santorum will apparently be 4) gathering up a special group of para-military Catholic police, to round up millions of women. And 5) take them to prison, and/or execution?

Or maybe 6) Santorum will burn them as witches, or as Protestants?

Anti-abortion extremists like Santorum, and EWTN/RN, and Priests for Life, are very, very dangerous idiots. They don't really know what absurdities and horrors, would logically result, if anyone took them seriously.

There's a long discussion on this and related issues, in the DU "Topics" section, Subsection "Health," sub-sub topic "Pro Choice": http://www.democraticunderground.com/1152257

papa3times

(150 posts)
14. abortion is abortion
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:18 AM
Feb 2012

Don't forget spontaneous abortions(miscarriages), women would be open to criminal prosecution for murder if they had a miscarriage according to the logic of this hate filled idealogue.

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
24. Oh, they're smart enough to know that women will suffer plenty if the docs are threatened!
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:44 AM
Feb 2012

All we have to do is go back to the days when abortion was illegal. Those dirty illegal abortions were very efficient killers and maimers of women. They were regular "customers" in Emergency Rooms all across the nation.

ANTI-ABORTION LAWS KILL WOMEN!

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. Remember What Newt Said
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:33 PM
Feb 2012

Remember what Newt said about the law. They had a right to overlook laws they believe are not correct. Sanitorum believes the same thing. He believes he can overlook such legal nuisances.

Bette Noir

(3,581 posts)
10. This is why our guy leads among single women by more than a 2/1 margin.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:25 AM
Feb 2012

When "The Handmaid's Tale" came out, I said it was about what would happen if Pat Robertson (who was running at the time) was elected. substitute "Rick Santorum" for "Pat Robertson," and it's still true.

David__77

(23,627 posts)
11. That's what being "pro-life" means.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:09 AM
Feb 2012

If you believe abortion is murder, then of course you would hold this view. But abortion is NOT murder, and fetuses are NOT children. Santorum is simply more honest.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
20. "Every sperm is sacred," the Church tried to say, c. 1950-66
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:23 PM
Feb 2012

A view which was justly lampooned by Monty Python, Jimmy Buffett, and the film Legally Blonde.

If every sperm is a human being, and the average sex act wastes 100,000 of them? Then every male on earth is a mass murderer.

Declaring blastocysts to be fully human, puts us onto the slippery slope to absurdity.

ChadwickHenryWard

(862 posts)
16. He misquoted the Constitution.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:43 PM
Feb 2012

The Constitution does not contain the phrase "endowing by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." That is the Declaration of Independence. But knowledge of American history and law is so passe.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
17. So he supports the Death Penalty for doctors who provide abortions ... ?
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:59 PM
Feb 2012

how about doctors who cannot save patients? How about businesses who, knowingly negligent, put out products which lead to the death of fetuses?

 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
18. So he will be judge and jury, convicting people of a crime...
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:59 PM
Feb 2012

that doesn't exist?

Rick, I think you failed freshman criminal law, ... no... you failed junior high school civics.


Unless something changed while the Republicans were in the majority of the House in the last 13 months, AND unless the Supreme Court overturned Roe V Wade while I wasn't looking, abortion is NOT A CRIME in ANY of the 50 states and U.S. Territories!!

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
22. Its not a crime - yet. But a dozens states are trying to declare the embryo a full human "person."
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:29 PM
Feb 2012

If that is voted in? And then passes constitutional/SCOTUS review? Then abortion would be automatically considered to be ... murder.

Then Santorum could run around jailing millions of women, or burning them at the stake. For being murders, witches, or Protestants.

 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
23. Such laws will be challenged under Roe v Wade
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:46 PM
Feb 2012

States may not unilaterally rescind rights already granted to any group or individual without due process.

A challenge would immediately invoke a stay of execution on any such law, however enacted, subject to federal judicial review.

Roe v Wade is the law of the land until such time as the Constitution of the US rescinds that through Amendment. It's simple Constitutional law. Any good Constitutional law professor would teach you that....oh wait... he's kind of busy now, he's busy being President.

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