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EarlG

(21,985 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 10:55 AM Apr 2015

Pic Of The Moment: Iran Nuclear Deal: History In The Making



This is an astonishingly good Iran deal

And, so it begins - this is how peace starts, with a selfie...



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Pic Of The Moment: Iran Nuclear Deal: History In The Making (Original Post) EarlG Apr 2015 OP
CNN, for one, is not mentioning the 97% reduction in enriched uranium stockpiles....just "reduced stockpile". The enemy Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #1
Exactly! SoapBox Apr 2015 #9
good for the gander father founding Apr 2015 #2
exactly what I was thinking. niyad Apr 2015 #5
I don't know what you mean... erronis Apr 2015 #10
You had me going there for a minute. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #16
The heat from the 2naSalit Apr 2015 #3
You can learn a lot about whether it is a good deal or not by looking at who doesn't like it corkhead Apr 2015 #4
Yep "got played" "look like clowns" underpants Apr 2015 #7
Isn't it just like Obamacare Johonny Apr 2015 #14
Spot on. They have no alternative underpants Apr 2015 #15
And why Maynar Apr 2015 #11
In No Area Am I as Proud of My President as In Foreign Affairs! panfluteman Apr 2015 #6
Strong is The FORCE in these warriors... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #12
OK, let's talk about lifting the sanctions NBachers Apr 2015 #8
What does Iran receive in exchange for what it is giving up? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #13
Except bibi hates it. louis-t Apr 2015 #17
Not only is this a GOOD deal; it is a BIG deal. PatrickforO Apr 2015 #18
The WAR profiteers must be crying their eyes out now. valerief Apr 2015 #19
Mahalo EarlG.. meanwhile from the hardliners.. Cha Apr 2015 #20
Obama is the best foreign affairs President in my lifetime. Scuba Apr 2015 #21
Bibi is celebrating too, right? Helen Borg Apr 2015 #22
Coming on the heels of nowruz, this is a hopeful thing. MADem Apr 2015 #23
Have we had the first Neville Chamberlain comparison yet? nxylas Apr 2015 #24
It sounds good but... polynomial Apr 2015 #25
RWers dissing this should be asked if they're willing to put their own boots on the ground wordpix Apr 2015 #26
FUCKING THANKS!!! OBAMA..... Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #27
But...but...we're not killing anybody! KansDem Apr 2015 #28
Meanwhile, back at their secret hideout, the Gang of 47 is busy writing letters. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #29

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. CNN, for one, is not mentioning the 97% reduction in enriched uranium stockpiles....just "reduced stockpile". The enemy
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 11:03 AM
Apr 2015

of this agreement is not just Republicans and Bibi, it is also the corporate media.

Experts have it right, the perpetually hair on fire for Republicans are boringly pyrrhic.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
9. Exactly!
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:18 PM
Apr 2015

And the way CBS radio has been reporting, one would think that President Obama has been negotiating ALONE, sitting at some folding table with all of Iran!

They ran THREE yaps by Puke War Hawks AND Bibi lat night, about how bad this is...

One of the War Hawks was vomiting up some garbage about letting the American people actually VOTE on this...ya right.

erronis

(15,398 posts)
10. I don't know what you mean...
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:29 PM
Apr 2015

Israel doesn't have nuklear weapons, just like South Africa didn't have them.

And if it did have them it would definitely sign the Nuklear (non)Proliferation Treaty. But since it didn't sign the treaty it must not have any. See, pure logic from Tel Aviv.

2naSalit

(86,880 posts)
3. The heat from the
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 11:26 AM
Apr 2015

graphics department is palpable... "But, but, but war is so exciting to make into <shock and> awesome videos and now we have to just report on boring social issues and elections instead."

Peace, it's just not sexy for war mongers and profiteers.

underpants

(182,967 posts)
7. Yep "got played" "look like clowns"
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:07 PM
Apr 2015

Local RW drive time radio host yesterday. He played clips from the President and then the Iranian foreign minister who said that they wouldn't be closing the facilities. See that, to him, meant the Iranians were telling the U.S. "screw you".

To the dashboard believers that makes sense.

Johonny

(20,925 posts)
14. Isn't it just like Obamacare
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:05 PM
Apr 2015

The GOP alternative to Obamacare is nothing. The GOP alternative to this deal is: Iran continues enriching Uranium, continues arms program, sanctions continue which build up resentment to the west in society, and the world is no safer. So Nothing. They pretend their alternative is Iran having no weapons program, but their path to doing that is them continuing to do nothing. That is their solution to everything. Do nothing and hope it works out. If it doesn't work out then they have a bail it out or bomb it. Who votes for these people?

underpants

(182,967 posts)
15. Spot on. They have no alternative
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:13 PM
Apr 2015

What they really fear, I think, is that This is the first step toward Iran opening back up to the West. Aside from just lifting the sanctions I think the Iranian leadership knows that their young and middle age people (most of them) are done with the whole pissing match and are trying to get in front of it.

panfluteman

(2,073 posts)
6. In No Area Am I as Proud of My President as In Foreign Affairs!
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:30 PM
Apr 2015

President Obama had an international upbringing, like I did, and his depth and breadth of international knowledge and savvy shows. And of course, in no other arena of governing are there so many glaring differences and disparities between him and his predecessor, who could arguably be called the most disastrous and inept in foreign policy. After all, wasn't the Iraq War the greatest US foreign policy blunder to date?

My head is still spinning as to how Obama and Kerry were able to come up with such an astonishingly good deal. How did they do it? They seem to be like magicians who just have the magic touch when it comes to rubbing the genie's lamp. So - what did Iran see or feel that they were getting in return for making these concessions? Enquiring minds like mine want to know!

Actually, the accomplishments of the Obama administration are many and legion, but the hateful, bigoted right wingers will never give him credit for any of them. Instead, they persist in continuing to call him the worst president ever, which really makes me bristle with disgust. Right wing morans: If you really want to see the worst president ever - how about looking right behind you in the rear view mirror?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. Strong is The FORCE in these warriors...
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:56 PM
Apr 2015

A historic breakthrough, it is!

No accident that:
CERN researchers confirm existence of the FORCE
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026447077

'How did they do it? They seem to be like magicians who just have the magic touch...'

Use their Jedi mind powers, they did!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. What does Iran receive in exchange for what it is giving up?
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 02:58 PM
Apr 2015

Just lifting the sanctions? Anything else? And when are the sanctions to be lifted? It's great to negotiate this big step toward peace in the Middle East, but I've only heard half the story. Negotiations usually result in gives by both sides. What are those negotiating with Iran giving?

louis-t

(23,309 posts)
17. Except bibi hates it.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:17 PM
Apr 2015

He wants us to obliterate Iran for him. That would make him feel much better.

PatrickforO

(14,600 posts)
18. Not only is this a GOOD deal; it is a BIG deal.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 05:18 PM
Apr 2015

Especially considering that the American people, by a margin of 2:1, wanted a deal instead of a war. I think if the Republicans try to screw this up, many Americans will be very disappointed in them. And if they actually precipitate a war with Iran, perhaps when it is over, there can be war crimes trials. I've been waiting for those, as I know many of you have. I'm also waiting for the treason charges to be brought against the 47 Republicans, including my own state's Sen. Cory Gardner.

Now, all we have to do is try and stop Obama from going ahead with this new Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership and he can actually leave office with both domestic and foreign policy legacies very positive.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
19. The WAR profiteers must be crying their eyes out now.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 05:43 PM
Apr 2015

I wonder when they'll invent another "attack."

Cha

(297,878 posts)
20. Mahalo EarlG.. meanwhile from the hardliners..
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 06:50 PM
Apr 2015

The New York Times ✔ @nytimes
Follow
The outlines of the nuclear deal came in for immediate criticism from Iranian hard-liners http://nyti.ms/1D03Cqg
3:18 AM - 3 Apr 2015 173 Retweets 125 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/04/03/early-bird-rise-and-shine-22/#comments

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. Coming on the heels of nowruz, this is a hopeful thing.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:20 PM
Apr 2015

Lots of happy friends and family over this!

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
24. Have we had the first Neville Chamberlain comparison yet?
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:53 AM
Apr 2015

In the rightwingoverse, it's always 1938.

polynomial

(750 posts)
25. It sounds good but...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 02:52 AM
Apr 2015

From my view those so called sanctions are not clear. However, since Rockefeller likely holds part or all of the formula for this nuclear stuff developed at the University of Chicago under the secret Manhattan project paid for by tax dollars, it seems reasonable Iran is giving up the initiative to find the answer to their Big Bang formula.

This agreement means those seventy five virgins can wait a while longer or even be modified later  So, there has to be a jihad theme that has flattened, or better will vanish. All good reason Allah must be relieved of all that energy needed to bring forth from that which is not.

So, if your confused as many us are saying why now? Why the Republicans could not forge such a deal. The answer is simple there is a huge profiteering margin in lead rather than academic ying yanging.

So the Republican military industrial complex, where war are U.S. as motto, will get a fresh layer at the next presidential election. Likely with a new “Jebi” war.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
26. RWers dissing this should be asked if they're willing to put their own boots on the ground
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 02:19 PM
Apr 2015

or send their children/grandchildren. If they want war so badly, put up or shut up.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
27. FUCKING THANKS!!! OBAMA.....
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 06:00 PM
Apr 2015

And this is not an internet meme, but I mean that with all my heart. Now if he can only ditch the XL pipeline and the TPP, I would rate him the best president (all considering what he was up against) in the last 150 years.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
29. Meanwhile, back at their secret hideout, the Gang of 47 is busy writing letters.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 05:38 PM
Apr 2015

"We need more pen-pals! RSVP!! Now!"

Signed, 47 Republican Senators.


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