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Modern day ruins - the shopping mall (Original Post) Lodestar Apr 2015 OP
really depressing olddots Apr 2015 #1
No shit! delrem Apr 2015 #2
Try breaking the economic stereotype that growth is good ffr Apr 2015 #11
That's what happens when you depress wages and offshore your industry Warpy Apr 2015 #3
At least undeserving lazy people aren't getting stuff they don't deserve. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #6
For details HeiressofBickworth Apr 2015 #4
RIP blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #5
Online shopping changed the game. HughBeaumont Apr 2015 #7
In our neck of the woods Wal Mart killed the mall. fasttense Apr 2015 #8
Fortunately, Thespian2 Apr 2015 #9
We have a bunch of repurposed malls here.... Historic NY Apr 2015 #10

ffr

(22,674 posts)
11. Try breaking the economic stereotype that growth is good
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:49 AM
Apr 2015

Because unlimited 'anything,' be it growth, expansion, raising production, more malls, more people, etc, cannot go on forever in a finite world. In fact, I'd argue that the textbook economic recession, as defined, is a good thing that we should be striving for. We need to be decreasing our consumption, decreasing our numbers, decreasing automobile & oil production, and on and on, if we're going to survive ourselves; a paradigm shift in how we think on a global scale.

And it's not depressing when nature recaptures man-made deserts, our deserts made of concrete and steel, where nature and ecosystems are replaced by malls and freeways and human blight. We either need to come into commonality with nature or ignore doing so, at our own peril.


Warpy

(111,383 posts)
3. That's what happens when you depress wages and offshore your industry
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 04:14 AM
Apr 2015

The demand side of the economy dries up and goes away, starting with the middle.

I see people in the local mall. I don't see them with multiple bags like I used to.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
7. Online shopping changed the game.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 05:45 AM
Apr 2015

It's also dependent on locale, really.

Northeast Ohio (where a lot of dead malls are) - a wasteland until you consider outdoor mini-cities like Crocker Park, Legacy Village and Westgate thrive just fine (outdoor malls in freezing NE Ohio . . . go figure). Yet all the enclosed malls are like zombie film sets.

Tyson's Corner and Arundle Mills in MD/VA - always packed to the rafters.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
8. In our neck of the woods Wal Mart killed the mall.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:24 AM
Apr 2015

We didn't have high end malls to begin with. They were anchored by K-Mart, Sears or JC Penney. Then when Wally Mart put up a huge super-center near by, but of course NOT in the mall, the stores started leaving along with the dwindling customers. It's a shame too because the mall was close enough to revitalize the downtown area.

People around here do NOT shop on line because they can't afford the computer and internet service. But give them a Wally Mart and they'll go there every time.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
9. Fortunately,
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 09:41 AM
Apr 2015

I live 70 km from the shopping mall. Don't miss having one nearby. Never buy any thing from Wal-Fart.

Shop locally. My friends and neighbours own those businesses and need to make a living.

Historic NY

(37,454 posts)
10. We have a bunch of repurposed malls here....
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 09:52 AM
Apr 2015

several from the 90's are in the failing stages from the empty store fronts or stores that sell cheap shit, cheaper. For more that 16 yrs one builder has been trying to build a new town center mall...with tax relief from the community development (morons) that it will bring jobs. Those jobs will come from the mall across the street thats dying. I went last month to Sears at our old mall the first in 3-4 years, pretty sad.

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