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Mass Extinction, Sea Level Rise and Amplification (Original Post) Mr_Jefferson_24 Apr 2015 OP
Nice turbinetree Apr 2015 #1
From Inhofe's perspective, he's the teacher. ffr Apr 2015 #5
We are NOT gonna school these rubes Plucketeer Apr 2015 #9
This is why Scott Walker devalues education. postulater Apr 2015 #2
Bookmarked for later viewing N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2015 #3
Peter Ward has also written excellent books on the topic Cassidy Apr 2015 #4
How do we get through to those chervilant Apr 2015 #6
We can't get through to them, really. No amount of education will get enough people to Nay Apr 2015 #7
Well, then, I would love to chat with you. chervilant Apr 2015 #8

turbinetree

(24,735 posts)
1. Nice
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 09:23 AM
Apr 2015

explanation, now if the deniers were to sit down and watch and take notes like Snowball Senator Inhofe.
I think that the full video should be sent to him, instead of his show and tell of hypocrisy.
He (Inhofe) should be strapped down just like in the movie Clock Work Orange and made to watch it over and over again until he gets its right, along with the American Prosperity crowd, Club for Growth, Alec and any other nefarious deniers of there realm that go around and say "well I am not a scientists".

Harpers Magazine had a great article on the snow melt in and around Greenland,
"Rotten Ice---Traveling by Dogsled in the Melting Arctic by Gretel Ehrlich"----great article.
Maybe Inhofe and his crowd should get some copies sent to them and then ask to take a test and give the citizens a report



ffr

(22,674 posts)
5. From Inhofe's perspective, he's the teacher.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 11:02 AM
Apr 2015

We take his tests, because he and the GOP cronies who were voted in are in control.

While the world warms, expect more denial from out elected leaders, until such time as enough people get off their dead asses and overwhelm the Fox Entertainment crowd who has been putting idiots like this, front and center in our government.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
9. We are NOT gonna school these rubes
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:39 PM
Apr 2015

When sea level rise claims a large percentage of this continent - when mass extinctions of flora and fauna leave us with decay and decimation - these "leaders" and the dolts that voted them to power will simply point to the apocalypse as PROOF that their ascension to heaven is at hand. They'll see the obvious "end times" as proof of the prophecies they've swallowed all along. I'd wager it'll be tougher to convert minds then than it is now. It's the silliness of religion that's cause SO MUCH pain since some prehistoric brains conceived it - and it'll be religion that keeps us doggedly on the path to our own elimination in the very near future.

I really hold close the hypothesis that we're unable to contact any like life forms in the universe because the inevitable end of intelligent life is to end itself thru fantasies and suspicions. The proof is right in front of us. We've got brains that can fashion tools of death and brains that can doggedly ignore the truth in favor of personal comforts (that includes religions) Either we're not NEARLY as smart as we paint ourselves, or we're at the bottom of some alchemists test tube.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
2. This is why Scott Walker devalues education.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 09:39 AM
Apr 2015

He knows intelligent people will show his dogmatic approach insufficient to address our global problems.

Cassidy

(202 posts)
4. Peter Ward has also written excellent books on the topic
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 10:35 AM
Apr 2015

The only book that Peter Ward has written that I have read so far is "Under a Green Sky." He writes for non-scientists and I think he does a very good job of making things clear and accurate while also making them interesting. The linkages that he makes with past extinctions and present extinctions, with carbon dioxide and hydrogen sulfide, are not something I had come across before.
I highly recommend his work.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
6. How do we get through to those
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 11:05 AM
Apr 2015

who are willfully ignorant? Those who continue their daily routines as though nothing is amiss. I have younglings in my family and among my friends who are having babies of their own, multiple babies, with no real understanding of what will likely occur in the next fifty years. When I ask them about climate change, they're all "Oh, yeah...I think about that sometimes."

Our hubris insures that our littlies will bear the brunt of this radical climate change. One hundred years is but the beginning of a blink of an eye, in terms of the life of this planet. I remember that fifty years ago, I was reading Rachel Carson's Silent Spring, and recognizing that our species' over-consumption and over-population were harbingers of something catastrophic. I could find no one with whom to discuss my concerns.

Now, at the ripe old age of 59, I know that I was not prescient--I was simply paying attention, like a significant number of other human beings on this planet. Now, I can find others with whom to discuss what I've witnessed. However, most of the humans on this planet are still, "well, yeah, I think about that sometimes."

Nay

(12,051 posts)
7. We can't get through to them, really. No amount of education will get enough people to
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 11:51 AM
Apr 2015

truly realize the danger. That's partially because (and pardon me for saying so) there are lots of people who aren't intelligent enough; partially because there are too many people whose magical beliefs tell them that THEY will be all right no matter what; and partially because the people who run the levers of the world know what's coming and want to make sure the correct people die off (not them).

As a 63-yr-old, I also have known for many years that this was going to happen. I also had very few people to talk to. I still don't have many, but my local nature group has plant biologists, etc., who know exactly what's going on and all say it's pretty much all over but the screaming. The human race will die back to a few million, and we'll start over again, if we are lucky. If we're not lucky and we do get a runaway heat reaction due to the carbon emissions, we won't survive that.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
8. Well, then, I would love to chat with you.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:23 PM
Apr 2015

I have made the decision to enjoy this ecosystem as much as I can for the remainder of my life, without being overtly damaging or disrespectful. I have begun learning to blacksmith, carve wood, knit, and do gourd art. I have a garden and I live above a major waterway, which is within easy walking distance. In fact, I walk across it at least once a day, with my walking buddy. I hope to transition into creating art to make the pitiful amount of money I need to live. I would prefer to avoid the corporate milieu.

At present, my volunteerism is focused on creativity. Despite having no children of my own (by choice, thanks to Carson's book), I tend to get positive responses from children. They say I'm "cool." LOL I now let them use my studio resources to flex their creativity muscles, without requiring money in return. Witnessing their creativity is so awesome!

Thanks for your reply. Let me know if you want to "chat."

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