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Apparently, Bernie Sanders views are a lot more mainstream with the American populace than the corporate media and your right wing friends want you to believe. As his numbers continue to steadily grow, one question remains: Can he win this?
Ring of Fires Mike Papantonio and Farron Cousins discuss this.
4139
(1,894 posts)Bernie is the new fresh face, he's the young person is the race... Not the SOS
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)how their canidate is doing so much better in the polls, but no refutations on issues or ideas . People have to forget about image, and listen to the content, what will they do and more importantly what have they done ? Who do they owe ? How often do they reverse their positions ? Bernie wins hands down .
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Bashing Hillary or Hillary supporters will not help Bernie one bit.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)enough? Wouldn't it be funny if the people got their way instead of the billionaires? Sooner or later the people will prevail. This is a class war, which side are you on? Don't bother answering, it's rhetorical.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)chopped liver?
I'm sorry but Bernie people don't seem to have a clue.
frylock
(34,825 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)turbinetree
(24,745 posts)to this thread not including mine 90% support Bernie and 10% support Clinton.
He has never attacked another candidate unless they are a republican and he has said from day one its about the ISSUES.
Go Bernie
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)OhZone
(3,212 posts)WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)and they are talking Bernie Sanders.
frylock
(34,825 posts)turbinetree
(24,745 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:41 AM - Edit history (1)
and I will talk and support Bernie also------------its about the ISSUES not Super Tuesday
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It is a bad sign for Hillary that Bernie is so popular among our demographic.
Hillary still has the time to say "right things" to draw voters to her. The question is going to be whether people will trust and believe her when her record and her alliances and ties to wealth and influence are compared to Bernie's simplicity and honesty. Bernie is not Obama. Bernie has a record of authenticity and strong, liberal stances that many Americans, not just Democrats, share.
Hillary will not draw Republican voters because they have been brainwashed against her. Bernie's honesty may draw some independents and Republicans that Hillary could never reach.
We shall see. This is a race like no race in the past.
Hillary's task is to prove that she is trustworthy, will do what she says, will really come down on the issues in favor of ordinary Americans, and is authentic, that she is real, that she really cares, that she will represent the American people, not the moneyed interests.
Problem is, she has this huge machine that she has purchased with all the money she has collected from the very high and mighty types who ruined our American economy, have collected most of the money gained from the technology advances of the past 30 years, have outsourced, bought and sold our jobs and are refusing to pay the taxes we need for social programs to help us get out of this "service jobs" economy that dooms us to low wages and worse and worse education and fewer and fewer opportunities. Hillary is up in the polls now, but her expensive strategy and her huge war chest may prove to be disadvantages contrary to her plan.
Life is strange. We shall see.
imthevicar
(811 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Hillary has moved to the right (that is not bashing Hillary that is a fact) and if the MSM wont talk about Bernie and the issues that matter to All Americans ,including student debt than you can find it on social media and this is where the media has changed 100 fold since 2008 and even from just 3 years ago.
Young voters are paying really close attention to Bernie. The first time voters are listening to Bernie Sanders and they like what they hear.
So if you pay close attention Hillary supporters are bashing Bernie Sanders and why? Because he is correct on all the issues ?
What issue has Bernie Sanders talked about that you disagree with him on ?
Papantonio was right about the MSM when he said the "MSM can't get the rating talking about real issues, they have to have personal attacks among the candidates because that is when the rating are high"
Why is Bernie Sanders numbers keeps going up and Hillary's are going down.
Bernie Sanders has a good chance of winning Iowa for starters. And then on to NH where he has had overwhelming crowds.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Keep trying.
demosincebirth
(12,554 posts)Hillary, too.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)that so many HRC supporters think talking about differences on issues qualifies as "bashing." Differences on issues is the basis for a primary. Stating a fact is not gratuitous. It is simply the right way to look at things.
nakocal
(558 posts)My main fear is that the corporate media will sabotage Senator Sanders' campaign like they did with Gov. Dean's campaign. They will take a snippet of something completely out of context and then play it 24x7 implying the the Senator is not the right person to be President.
turbinetree
(24,745 posts)must make them feel the loss in revenue----------------look no further than what is happening to Limburger cheese----------he is losing his stations in big markets---------------there are more of us than them------------------its a playbook from the sixties-------------and we didn't have the internet back then
Honk--------for a political revolution
Bernie 2016
OhZone
(3,212 posts)Well, maybe one. Oh well.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)He already has over 200,000 volunteers signed up
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)It is time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.
Then Bernie will win
marble falls
(57,659 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)K&R