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(57,936 posts)The most astute analysis of that speech that I have heard or seen.
Hillary has a lot of great sounding proposals, but she never says how she will fund them and never gives details as to how they will work.
Universal child care? Great idea. Private or public? How much will parents be charged? Who will pay for it? How will it be paid for?
We have another Obama here. Good speeches. Mediocre implementation and an unwillingness to raise taxes on the richest, their donors.
And the only way we can turn this country around, become competitive in the world, reduce the number of people in our prisons and bring real hope to our country is to drastically raise taxes on the top percentage of wealth that the richest people take our of our national income and fund programs. We also need a new, more vigorous antitrust policy that does not allow just a few businesses to dominate while a few little tiny companies struggle to make ends meet. We need more diversity in the ownership of our economy. That can only be accomplished, I fear with massive government regulation, anti-trust laws that are actually enforced and some restrictions when it comes to imports and the exporting of jobs.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)It took our grandfathers and great uncles shedding their BLOOD to finally get some regulation imposed on Industry, and that worked well for over 50 years.
THEN, the Republicans & CorpoDemocrats (Clinton) decided that it was these hard fought regulations that protected America's Working Class were what was holding this country back,
so they did away with them.
"They" were wrong. Without regulation,...the RICH WIN.......ALWAYS.
I'm old, but it makes me angry that our children will have to fight the SAME battles fought by our grandfathers (if you're young, your great-grandfather) all over again.
Removing the History of the LABOR Movement from the History Books was the first step.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Hillary is saying some good things lately but politicians always say great stuff to get elected. Usually they don't follow through.
You're right we need more diversity in the ownership of our economy. I think in some cases public ownership is the smartest choice. Federal government can run health insurance for example.
And Bernie Sanders has another great idea for more diversity in ownership. He wants the government to encourage more worker-owned businesses. For me that's a top issue. Because I don't think we can ever really end the horrors of war, racism, and mass incarceration, etc. until we flip the script and put workers in charge by bringing a lot more democracy into work and production.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/worker-owned-businesses-2014
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Although in my world view, worker-owned businesses would require what I would call a "spiritual" revolution. A revolution in how we relate to each other and our world.
Because as long as our sense of separateness from each other is so much stronger than our sense of unitedness with each other, as long as we seek more to compete against each other and less to listen to each other and work with each other and appreciate each other, then worker cooperatives may end in dissension and prove inefficient and unworkable.
So we have to be able to get along together to succeed with worker owned cooperatives.
But I agree.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)but you have the plan. How many votes do you think you'll get?
Again delusion standing in for reality.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Hillary is not doing that.
Sorry if the weakness of your candidate hurts your feelings.
Compare Hillary and Sanders when it comes to actually explaining how to pay for the programs they propose.
I'm waiting FOR Hillary to get explicit, give us the details about how she wants to fund her programs.
Sanders is introducing an amendment that would require the money to fund wars to come from raising taxes on the very rich. I think that is a great idea. I'm waiting to hear how Hillary wants to fund her wars.
Silence. Chirp. Chirp. Chirp.
Whose taxes will Hillary raise? That is the question of the moment.
Whose taxes will Hillary raise?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)am sure you will all be very satisfied as much as you all are now so satisfied that Clinton is advocating populist principles; remember when so many opined how she was not?
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)walk the walk and talk the talk. They're pro's. Lots of practice for sure. I knew there was a lot of fluff in her speech, but now that I see it from Cenks view, he was spot on. It was the same ol, same ol. Sounded good, but no backbone.
panfluteman
(2,075 posts)Boy, it takes a lot of clever work to talk out of both sides of your mouth, carefully crafting your words so that voters will assume things about what you've said that you never really said. And Hillary seems to be a real genius at that. Definitely, there was absolutely nothing in what she said to even do the slightest ruffling of corporate feathers or rocking the boat of the status quo. So in the end, her corporate donors make out like bandits and leave the American voter / taxpayer holding the bag. Man, how our political system is rotten to the core! And boy, how it needs to be changed! If the American voting public ever wakes up, they will just put their earplugs in when they make a token appearance at a Hillary rally - and then vote for Bernie when they go to the voting booth. We just need to walk away from the corporate electoral system, and just leave their political machine to its own devices - and then vote for the alternative, which is Bernie Sanders.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)I'm not foolable anymore.
ibewlu606
(160 posts)When Republicans allowed themselves to be bought and paid for, we called them "corporate whores".