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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 05:29 PM Jun 2015

the great Johnny Otis, a Greek-American who claimed to be black & was celebrated for it



http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/12/the-indomitable-blackness-of-teena-marie/68597/#comment-120152600
But Johnny basically claimed blackness in a pre-civil rights world when you couldn't live and move across "color lines" without making a life choice and sticking to it - he was simply considered black, even making the cover of "Negro Achievements" magazine in the early '50s, and was deeply involved in SoCal black political activism. I've talked to older black folk who saw his band at the Apollo in the 40s and early 50s and didn't have any idea he was white.


The fact that he was a white man always seemed to matter little, least of all to Johnny Otis. He was born Ioannis Alexandres Veliotes in California in 1921, the son of Greek immigrants, and from early childhood he loved African American culture with religious ferocity. He happily found that it loved him back. In 1941, in violation of California's miscegenation laws, he married a pretty young woman named Phyllis Walker; they had four children together and were married for 70 years. Otis's musical popularity in the black community was so great that in 1951 his head-shot—funnily and fittingly—graced the cover of a magazine called Negro Achievements.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/01/johnny-otis-anti-racist-r-b-pioneer/251780/
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the great Johnny Otis, a Greek-American who claimed to be black & was celebrated for it (Original Post) uhnope Jun 2015 OP
Steve Martin did also maindawg Jun 2015 #1
Alexander Pushkin, Russia's greatest writer was also Black Xipe Totec Jun 2015 #2
A rather different situation. (nt) enough Jun 2015 #5
Everyone assumed the composer of Johnny Otis' signature piece, Harlem Nocturne, was black, too Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #3
I Used to Play Harlem Nocturne on the Shakuhachi, and Later On, On the Pan Flute panfluteman Jun 2015 #7
Any experience with the quills? Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #9
Oh, wow, he wrote Harlem Nocturne? Great song. nt valerief Jun 2015 #10
Then there was Iron Eyes Cody.... femmocrat Jun 2015 #4
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2015 #6
And while we're at it... The Time is Now Jun 2015 #8
Johnny Otis is a rather different example. He acknowledged his whiteness and the privilege that it fishwax Jun 2015 #11

Xipe Totec

(43,893 posts)
2. Alexander Pushkin, Russia's greatest writer was also Black
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jun 2015

Though you wouldn't know it by looking at him.



Alexander Sergeyevich Pushkin (6 June 1799 – 10 February1837) was an Afro-Russian author of the Romantic era who is considered by many to be the greatest Russian poet and the founder of modern Russian literature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Pushkin

Brother Buzz

(36,509 posts)
3. Everyone assumed the composer of Johnny Otis' signature piece, Harlem Nocturne, was black, too
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jun 2015

Until he wrote the Fishin' Hole





panfluteman

(2,075 posts)
7. I Used to Play Harlem Nocturne on the Shakuhachi, and Later On, On the Pan Flute
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:15 AM
Jun 2015

It's a great tune! And now, I know who wrote it, and have heard the original. Yep - bein' black at heart is no crime!

Brother Buzz

(36,509 posts)
9. Any experience with the quills?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 10:30 AM
Jun 2015

Oh, but to have been a fly on the wall to watch Henry Thomas play the cane quills!



I may be wrong, but I believe there is a set of quills lying to the right of Henry Thomas in this artistic rendition


My son played Harlem Nocturne for his UCLA marching band audition. They graciously accepted him.

The Time is Now

(86 posts)
8. And while we're at it...
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:41 AM
Jun 2015

Don't forget Lord Buckley:



Classic hip cat, born in England, revered in bebop circles.

fishwax

(29,152 posts)
11. Johnny Otis is a rather different example. He acknowledged his whiteness and the privilege that it
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 03:15 PM
Jun 2015

provided him. If you can get your hands on Listen to the Lambs, a book that he wrote in response to the Watts Riots in the 1960s, you should.

He claimed to be "black by persuasion," but that isn't quite the same as claiming a full-on black identity, and he knew that his acceptance by the community he claimed as his own would be built on political, social, and artistic contributions as well as by sharing in the struggle--but not by cultivating deception. (Again, this is also something he discusses in Listen to the Lambs and elsewhere.) He was at times assumed to be black--often by audiences and sometimes by fellow musiciains--but his race wasn't a secret. You can find reference to him in magazines like Billboard and Jet in the 1940s and 1950s as a white musician.

Here's a snippet from Jet Magazine (which you can find on google books)

Johnny Otis, White, Heads "Negro" Blues Band

From his drummer's seat, Johnny Otis lends drive, smart direction, and warm personality to the best blues and rhythm band in the West. His manner is typical of blues purveyors and his dress is in the slightly-exaggerated style of musicians. He is handsome, husky and white--the only white man leading an otherwise all-Negro blues group.

...

Otis recognizes no oddity in his being a white man in a traditionally-Negro field. He never mentions his race, unless asked. Then, he inquires: 'What's the difference?'"
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