Which Ralph mentioned here

http://www.timeforaraise.org/

-905 Jimmy

He gave us Bush.

Katherine Harris and the Democratic Party which failed to challenge the election outcome gave us George Bush. Green Party votes did not affect the electoral outcome in a single state. Furthermore, the Florida Republican Party, which controlled the legislature, made it clear that it would award the state's electoral votes to Bush regardless of which candidate won the popular vote.

there were enough people in both states that voted for him that said if he was not on the ballot they would have voted for Gore, and gore would have won. Look at the exit polls and the final results.

In NH 27% of the voters were registered Democrats in 2000. 36% were Republicans. That leaves a lot of independent voters but many more Republicans. The Green Party took 4% of the vote. Gore got 47% and Bush 48%. It would be erroneous to conclude as a matter of fact that all Green Party votes came from those who would otherwise have voted for Gore. Furthermore, Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes nationally and in Florida had they all been counted.

While 97,000 reportedly voted green in Florida, 200,000 Democrats voted for Bush (most likely due in part to vote tampering) and 58,000 voters were scrubbed by Katherine Harris's office, far outweighing green votes. There was also the ballot scandal that caused many votes to cast votes for Buchanan, and the fact that about 30,000 votes were cast for other minority party candidates.

You assume that the 97,000 green votes would all have been cast for Gore, absent Nader. There is no evidence to support this anymore than in NH. Many would not have voted or voted for Bush. Regardless, NH's 4 electoral votes had no bearing on the election outcome, and it is virtually certain that had all votes been cast and counted correctly in Florida that Gore would have won by a huge margin, regardless of the Green Party.

In NH if you add up how many people who would have voted for gore and then bush if nader was not there Gore would have come out on top. Now exit polls are not written in stone, so you may have a case in nh, but FL is a different case.

that NH didn't matter, but Florida did, and the outcome in Florida and hence the election were pre-ordained and the Greens had nothing to do with any of it.

purged from florida voting rolls to cost Gore the election too.

around 8,000 or so people were illegally removed (labled false felons) from florida voter rolls in 2000.

the real people you need to be mad at ...

DBT (Now called ChoicePoint) , the republican owned(Ceo and Board) company that purged the rolls for florida...
Catherine Harris, who made sure the plan was executed (she got rewareded with a seat in congress , thankfully just one term)..
and the SCOTUS, who decided it didnt matter if all the votes were counted.

there are plenty of people to blame, and you are picking the one guy who actually agrees with us on most issues?
yeah, that makes a ton of sense.

He was responsible for his part!!! Everything else you say is correct, but give blame where blame is due!!! Nader is as much to blame!

an unstoppable force for consumers rights.
Get over it! Then listen to the important message he gives us in this interview.

But hey you can like him.

that you have so much hatred for a man thats done so much to advance consumer rights in this country based on a lie that he stole something or took something away from you ...
get a grip.

election fraud gave us GW bush, with the help of SCOTUS..
if you hadnt noticed, they are atttempting to do it again in Florida this time around too...

...he is absolved does not cut it for me and many people who happily voted for him. I campaigned for Gore and I remember that election night as a nightmare because we saw nader's margin killing us.

Didn't the decision by the Supreme Court, to stop the count in Florida actually give the presidency to Bush? I wasn't aware that Nadar's margin was that significant. Nadar does talk the talk and I think he has it right. But there is a certain something about him that creeps one out.

I agree on the supreme court, however the topic is about Nader. Nader Help defeat Gore. Michael Moore who voted for Nader Apologized to Al Gore for helping Nader in 2000. Most people I know who voted for Nader felt really bad when they saw the results.

If someone else had expressed the exact same ideas in that interview, my bet is you would applaud it.

bringing us things like nutrition lables on food and air bags in cars! what a douche bag!


Get a grip dude.

He has always helped the people who do exactly what he claims to be against!

So, how much money are Republicans pulling down from foreign investors in the Republican Party? And who knows what foreign investors are investing in the Republican Party?

For that matter, what kind of crooks are investing in the Republican Party in America? We don't know.

We don't know, but Mitch does!

Should Americans know who is investing in the Republican Party and why?

making millions from his attacks on the Corvair?

He's run against America and Americans and ran FOR his own EGO!

He should actually have been campaigning for Democrats the last 40 years not jerking himself off and "accidentally" helping the GOP!

Freak Nader!

EDIT: OK, I do agree with a lot of his points here, but does he really believe his own points when he so often helps the GOP? I don't trust him. The Democrats are only the lesser of two evils, but they are still the better party and the only one that will do what Nader wants. If Nader had helped progressive Democrats instead of being aloof, life would be so much better. He wants people to do things outside the system a little too much.