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Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:29 PM Jan 2018

Citizens perform Field Sobriety Test on an officer lol

This is what is known as a first amendment audit where citizens go out with cameras and engage in public photography (totally legal) and test public officials as to whether they will respect that right and leave the citizen alone or get butthurt and go as far as to unlawfully arrest that citizen. (google search 'first amendment audit'. thousands of these videos are out there and many are very entertaining and educational)

This officer passed the test and got high marks for his professionalism.

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Citizens perform Field Sobriety Test on an officer lol (Original Post) Garion_55 Jan 2018 OP
White guys with beards like that? I wonder what would happen Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #1
IMHO - The guys filming this are assholes packman Jan 2018 #2
I'm with you on that. Old Crow Jan 2018 #4
Some of these guys are sovereign citizens. This particular one is not . Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #6
Really interesting background there. Thanks! (N/T) Old Crow Jan 2018 #7
Here's a good example of a decent auditor. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #8
I'm agreeing too. yonder Jan 2018 #5
You can always tell when someone's comfortable with their legal authority; AzureCrest Jan 2018 #3
They need some instructions on camera use. rickford66 Jan 2018 #9

Eliot Rosewater

(31,151 posts)
1. White guys with beards like that? I wonder what would happen
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:36 PM
Jan 2018

if two young black men with dreadlocks came in and did the same thing.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
4. I'm with you on that.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jan 2018

They sound like they may be part of the Sovereign Citizen movement (*ugh*): same dopey reasoning, same obsession with asserting their rights without considering their responsibilities, same sense of self-importance. Granted, the video recording may be skewing things, but the police officer comes off as a much nicer, and more reasonable, person than the videographers.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,366 posts)
6. Some of these guys are sovereign citizens. This particular one is not .
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:11 PM
Jan 2018

Most of the are right wingers who suddenly noticed police misconduct when Obama became President. Some are full blown sovereign types and a few are liberals.


This guy is kind of Squirrley. He tries to emulate another auditor by the name of "news now Houston" who is the king daddy of auditors and YouTube.

A lot of these guys affiliate with Carlos Miller who is, as I understand it, a former (current?) DUer who founded the website Photography Is Not A Crime after he was arrested for filming a protest in Miami.

Following these people is been a bit of a fascination of mine for the last few years.

This auditor "movement" (for lack of a better word) is in part born out of the ridiculous reactions from cops being filmed on the street hassling and arresting and beating minorities.


It's kind of been taken over by white-wingers who refuse to grasp the concept that whatever hassles they get from the cops is amplified 10 times for minorities. They know cops abuse but they think black people deserve it.

The movement turned in to "im a white guy and I can film or carry a gun in public" -- "black people deserve what they get and black lives matter is racist"


I think the cops are finally are catching on to what's going on with these cameras. But once in a while they run across one who goes completely apeshit and arrests the cameraman for completely made up charges.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,366 posts)
8. Here's a good example of a decent auditor.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:41 PM
Jan 2018

I believe this is the case that set precedent in the Federal District Court - 3rd I think??

The case put the cops on notice that they no longer have immunity for arresting people filming. The cameraman tried to pierce the immunity that cop claimed for locking him in the hot squad car for an hour. The cop got off by the skin of his teeth put precedent was set for filming protections.

The case is Turner vs. Driver I believe. I'm doing this all from memory

yonder

(9,687 posts)
5. I'm agreeing too.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jan 2018

A couple of people with plenty of time, a camera and an inkling to what a "first amendment audit" might be is like giving a newly licensed driver the keys to a Porsche and unsupervised use: "Lets take her out and see what she kin do! yeehaaww"

It may be legal but perhaps not wise, and depending on the situation, could lead to an unintended result. Instead, how about "follow me out to the track". Once there, "put on your Nomex and helmet" give him/her a couple of hot laps and only then, "here's the keys, good luck and have fun". Still might total the Porsche, but much safer.

Kudos to the cop. He seemed to be a good sort.

 

AzureCrest

(65 posts)
3. You can always tell when someone's comfortable with their legal authority;
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jan 2018

they don't feel a need to "show out".

rickford66

(5,534 posts)
9. They need some instructions on camera use.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jan 2018

Even a mildly interesting clip is made un watchable by moving the camera to where your eyes look. Pan slowly at eye level. Unfortunately, the vast majority of amateur video clips on the internet are like this. i wonder how many people have seizures watching them.

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