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shambolic
(12 posts)What am I missing?
Mr.Bill
(24,380 posts)he can't take the 5th amendment. He could turn on Trump with no worries. These people are all weasels and they don't even trust each other.
magicarpet
(14,228 posts).... Cohen gets off the hook criminally (maybe - I am sure there will be a legal fight about any pardon). But let's say Cohen gets his pardon. Now Cohen loses his 5th amendment right against self incrimination - the right to keep silent - once Cohen gets his pardon Mueller can now force Cohen to tell all he knows about tr Dump or Mueller sends Cohen to jail.
tr Dump gives the pardon - then Mueller makes Cohen spill the beans about tr Dump.
tr Dump is damned if he does - and damned if he doesn't. Plus tr Dump is pretty upset with Cohen that documents, tapes, communications we're saved by Cohen and Mueller now has all the hard copy nitty gritty incriminating stuff about tr Dump. Cohen knows all the naughty stuff tr Dump has done since way back when.
tr Dump is backed into a corner and the power of the presi-duncey is not going to save tr Dump like he had hoped was a certain.
Pluvious
(4,352 posts)Anusface has been reported ripping up historical documents all the time.
It's prolly been his M.O. For decades.
It's what crooks do.
The fact Cohen didn't do this too must really irritate His Orangeness.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)another weekend. I'm tired of the explanations. DO SOMETHING TANGIBLE.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I'm now seeing it was not about her health. It was about her being female.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I remember how smug & confidant Cohen was on the first day of Court after his office & residence were raided. He sat outside with several Russian "friends," all smiling & laughing.
I suspect his "friends" have all deserted him, now. He's fired his team of expert lawyers, or they've left him. After the one initial call from Trump, I'm sure there have not been other calls. He & his family are left alone to face the music & pay the enormous bills. The pictures of him now show a worried, stressed man.
So maybe he's agreeing to anyone who offers a life jacket to him right now.
Arnold said Cohen is broke. But Cohen has properties. Expensive properties. Those can be sold to pay the legal bills. The real estate market is good, so it's not like he's under water on the mortgages, probably.
Why did Cohen and Manafort and others think they could get away with these big crimes forever? How does that work? You get away with it fr a year, so you go for two years? Once you get away with it that long, you get cocky & complacent & think the law is stupid and you are so smart? Amazing.
Nitram
(22,985 posts)He's blackmailing Trump to pardon him or face the consequences.