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Related: About this forumLong before Hansen '88: What we knew about Climate in 1982
My first teacher on climate science was long time Planetary Physicist Mike McCracken.
In 1982, MacCracken, then a researcher for DOE at Livermore, delivered a speech to
scientists at Sandia Lab. That is preserved on video.
I interviewed MacCracken in 2012, and we walked thru what has come to pass.
sobering, and infuriating.
Riverman100
(277 posts)My 6th grader (1965-1966) science teacher, Miss Guzzo warned us about it that year. Greenhouse effect etc.
BigmanPigman
(51,666 posts)I am glad I chose not to have kids. I wouldn't want the additional guilt and worry.
Quemado
(1,262 posts)Quemado
(1,262 posts)Quemado
(1,262 posts)a nuclear weapons physicist, warned the oil industry about global warming: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jan/01/on-its-hundredth-birthday-in-1959-edward-teller-warned-the-oil-industry-about-global-warming
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)I'm hearing, seeing this meme everywhere in the RW ranks: "We must defeat (and silence) liberalism"
Facepalmworthy. Not a realistic goal in the long run, attempting to pull more citizens into their:
anti-scientific fact
misguided blame frame
ignorant racism
sympathy for those poor, poor, downtrodden 0.1 percenters.
Wow, what a stack of cards destined for eventual, inevitable structural collapse from within.
We must keep reminding ourselves "This is NOT normal", and eventually, everything comes out in the wash.
Climate change will give the idiots, no matter how loud their mouthpieces, the smackdown in disasterous proportions. That will be the beginning of the end of the RW POV dominance over the falsehood-spewing media outlets. Denying science standing in the middle of disasterous flood, storms and dust-bowl droughts stricken areas? It's coming.
Pointless blame duh other guy? duh women? duh (fill in the blank here)? Dividing families and just creating rifts between those who eventually come to realize:
That racist blame throwing, continually supporting the rich to get richer eventually leads to perpetual debt cycles of the working class, and revolt.
Surely the light will eventually come on with those who aren't heading soon for the great beyond, and I'm seeing it every day how a stack of 2000 lies is getting more difficult almost daily for the RW pundits to build their delusions onto. Perhaps some of the aging sort need to consult those old articles? Some who introduced me to climate change in my own youth have conveniently forgotten something in all the hateful brainwashing.
I'm not willing to wait that long, and I've made it very clear to the RW nutjobs in my family that "they" are standing more and more alone in this deluded state of confabulation.
A few of them are coming around. The GOP has married this stack of bullshit, despite half hearted attempts on the parts of some of them to divorce themselves from this disaster and make still-polluting corporate "compromises" , they're still supporting inevitably disaster producing bullshit.
pansypoo53219
(21,010 posts)Quemado
(1,262 posts)had a lot of smog. Maybe someone back then tied CO2 emissions to global warming?
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...
The Artificial Production of Carbon Dioxide and its Influence on Temperature
By G. S. Callendar
(Steam technologist to the British Electrical and Allied Industries Research Association.)
(Communicated by Dr. G. M. B. DOBSONF, .R.S.)
(Manuscript received May 19, 1937-read February 16, 1938)
SUMMARY
By fuel combustion man has added about 150,000 million tons of carbon dioxide to the air during the past half century. The author estimates from the best available data that approximately three quarters of this has remained in the atmosphere. The radiation absorption coefficients of carbon dioxide and water vapour are used to show the effect of carbon dioxide on sky radiation.
From this the increase in mean temperature, due to the artificial production of carbon dioxide, is estimated to be at the rate of 0.003°C. per year at the present time. The temperature observations at 200 meteorological stations are used to show that world temperatures have actually increased at an average rate of 0.005 °C. per year during the past half century.
NOVA: Goddess of the Earth (full episode)
Start at 8:33 (for general intro) or and 11:38 (for a detail of what was knew about CO2 effects)
There is also a comment on the debate whether the average CO2 content was 321 or 322 ppm in 1985 (at 5:11)