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Frank regarding theocratic fascism (Original Post) SHRED Jan 2019 OP
Yep ... n/t Drifter Jan 2019 #1
Raygun Deal courtjester Jan 2019 #2
Well, home schooling has not been bad Perseus Jan 2019 #15
The passing of time really shows how obvious the lies of the right wing are. jalan48 Jan 2019 #3
This isn't someone to listen to, IMO. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #4
Your characterization of "the idol of my youth" 90-percent Jan 2019 #5
nor mine. mountain grammy Jan 2019 #7
Heavenly bank account... billpolonsky Jan 2019 #8
Thank you SHRED Jan 2019 #9
The guy on the left videohead5 Jan 2019 #6
This is my favorite part videohead5 Jan 2019 #10
Cool, calm and collected Zappa easily handled the patronizing Lofton and Novak. yonder Jan 2019 #11
There is also this. spike jones Jan 2019 #12
We all know that Frank Zappa was just a left wing alarmist patphil Jan 2019 #13
For the first moment, I thought you were referring to Frank SCHAEFFER, no_hypocrisy Jan 2019 #14

courtjester

(43 posts)
2. Raygun Deal
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jan 2019

If memory serves me right, was not there a deal between the Christian right and raygun to ease restrictions on home schooling and private church schools, which is one reason we are in the predicament we face now.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
15. Well, home schooling has not been bad
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 04:55 PM
Jan 2019

and private church schools, depending on how radical they are, are not bad either.

Not sure what you are referring to but it would be nice to elaborate.

Like everything around us, even interest groups like religious groups that have a very hard agenda which I believe has more to do with the organizers zest for money, once in a while they do promote things that help the country, not often but once in a while, and I happen to believe that releasing sanctions on home school and religious private schools has not bee a negative.

If we compare that with "Charter Schools" then I would agree, but charter schools were not pushed by religious groups, they were pushed by groups who think tax payer's money should move into their coffers, as well as those who are not interested in the improvement of public education.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
4. This isn't someone to listen to, IMO.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jan 2019

He's got some pretty weird positions on things. He's also a conservative who does not believe in the main positions of the Democratic Party and middle class Americans. He's anti-federal government, anti-tax, anti-social programs, and the like.

90-percent

(6,834 posts)
5. Your characterization of "the idol of my youth"
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:05 PM
Jan 2019

does not coincide with my 48 years of being a Zappaphile. For one thing, Frank and Gail donated $100K to the Democratic Party in the early nineties. He called himself a "Constitutional Fundamentalist." And really really really DID NOT LIKE televangelists, as witnessed be his "Beatles Medley" from the 88 tour.

Lucy in the sky with diamonds was subtly rewritten; "Louisiana Hooker with Herpes."



-90% Jimmy

yonder

(9,686 posts)
11. Cool, calm and collected Zappa easily handled the patronizing Lofton and Novak.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jan 2019

Lofton especially, deserved a quick poke to the schnozz for lurching in and out of Zappa's personal space with his Gish Gallop and slimy, stubby index finger.

That was an amazing display of composure and restraint by Mr. Mother of Invention.

spike jones

(1,697 posts)
12. There is also this.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jan 2019

The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” ― Frank Zappa

patphil

(6,258 posts)
13. We all know that Frank Zappa was just a left wing alarmist
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 04:17 PM
Jan 2019

Well, except for the fact that he was exactly correct in his prediction of the nation heading down the path of theocratic fascism.
When you see where we are now, Frank looks like a visionary.
Just like George Carlin, they had it right way back when.
There is an old pennsylvania dutch saying, "we get too soon old, and too late smart."
Hopefully it isn't too late for the country to smarten up as to how the pseudo-spiritual right-wing fundamentalist anti-christians are dragging this country down the road to their own personal brand of hell.
May God have mercy on this country if they don't.

Patrick Phillips

no_hypocrisy

(46,312 posts)
14. For the first moment, I thought you were referring to Frank SCHAEFFER,
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jan 2019

the born-again atheist, whose father started the Evangelical Movement in the Seventies.

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