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SHOCK: The Case for Trump's Re-Election (Original Post) rsacamano Aug 2020 OP
I strongly agree and think we should be working the "worst case" scenarios not jimlup Aug 2020 #1
I don't know anyone who is celebrating. Everyone I know is worried AF LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #8
I agree also hkp11 Aug 2020 #2
Absolutely-- no complacency from our side LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #9
Ok. I'm convinced. Illumination Aug 2020 #3
It won't happen anytime soon. SergeStorms Aug 2020 #4
David Pakman always does doom and gloom I won't watch him anymore Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #5
I didn't sense doom and gloom here... Layzeebeaver Aug 2020 #10
+1 I prefer watchful optimism. Tommymac Aug 2020 #12
it is correct llashram Aug 2020 #6
If our Country is dumb enough to re-elect this Shit Monster; then it's all Hopeless magicguido Aug 2020 #7
I don't know a single person who is complacent. soldierant Aug 2020 #11

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
1. I strongly agree and think we should be working the "worst case" scenarios not
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:59 AM
Aug 2020

the best.

My worry is that Trump captures everything he got in 2016 except the contested mid-west: Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. He only needs one of these. Wisconsin being the closest to slipping.

Watch out for the scenario where Wisconsin is the pivot that decides everything. I call this the nightmare scenario. Hopefully it is, but we should be prepared and working as if this is in fact true.

People are celebrating prematurely. This is the most important election in our lifetimes. It is a must win for blue.

LymphocyteLover

(5,636 posts)
8. I don't know anyone who is celebrating. Everyone I know is worried AF
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 01:00 PM
Aug 2020

All we can do is try our best to GOTV for our side and hope America as an entity is as stupid as 2016. Also, we have Senate races to win and if we flip the senate, it mitigates a Trump win.

hkp11

(275 posts)
2. I agree also
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 08:44 AM
Aug 2020

We should not be complacent about Joe Biden being ahead in polls and thinking he will win. We have vote and get others to vote. Also Drumpf with Bill Barr and the other Repukes help to have a October surprise - possibly fake news of Biden or some reports to come out about Biden to assure Drumpf wins - Repukes and Russia helping him to win again.

This is not a slam dunk win for Biden - people need to take this seriously.

LymphocyteLover

(5,636 posts)
9. Absolutely-- no complacency from our side
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 01:02 PM
Aug 2020

it's going to be dirty and nasty as hell and we're already exhausted, mentally drained

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
4. It won't happen anytime soon.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 09:00 AM
Aug 2020

It would take a Constitutional Amendment to rid ourselves of that archaic system, and good luck with that in today's political climate.

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
5. David Pakman always does doom and gloom I won't watch him anymore
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 09:53 AM
Aug 2020

Yes, dotard could win, not being Pollyanna

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
12. +1 I prefer watchful optimism.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:23 PM
Aug 2020

Doom and Gloom does not motivate me - it actually does the opposite.

David can take his negativity and flush it afaiac. Doesn't float my boat. And is not an effective strategy overall, imho.

I'll not watch him ever again...btw I hope he does get fired.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
6. it is correct
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:51 AM
Aug 2020

that we cannot underestimate trump or rogue electors in the Electoral College as we missed in 2016, yet he is not saying anything about trumps BFF Putin and the help his huge troll farm gave trump in passing along huge amounts of disinformation that kept his low information voter base chomping at the bit to make America white again and many more well-intentioned voters confused. Nor did Packman mention the huge voter suppression moves of the republicans. He is off base as I have basically always felt with him. He can teach me nothing.-

soldierant

(6,791 posts)
11. I don't know a single person who is complacent.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:10 PM
Aug 2020

I do know a lot of people who are clinging to hope in order to stay motivsted. It's not the same thing.

We are not all the same, and whereas some are more motivated by hoe, others are ore motivated by fear of catastrophe. There's room for all of us. Sniping at wach other won't help.

If we do lose, it will not be because we are stupid. It will be because we are outgunned by fraud. Frankly, that's nothing new.

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