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sl8

(13,991 posts)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 10:22 AM Jan 2018

Do you know what a lesbian rule is?

I didn't, until a few minutes ago. I was reading about French curves, which lead me to this Wikipedia article:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_rule


A flexible curve: the modern counterpart of a lesbian rule

Lesbian rule

A flexible curve: the modern counterpart of a lesbian rule
A lesbian rule was historically a flexible mason's rule made of lead that could be bent to the curves of a molding, and used to measure or reproduce irregular curves.[1][2][3] Lesbian rules were originally constructed of a pliable kind of lead found on the island of Lesbos.[4]

The rule is alluded to by Aristotle in his Nicomachean Ethics (bk V, ch. 10) as a metaphor for the importance of flexibility in equitable justice: "For what is itself indefinite can only be measured by an indefinite standard, like the leaden rule used by Lesbian builders; just as that rule is not rigid but can be bent to the shape of the stone, so a special ordinance is made to fit the circumstances of the case."[5]

In the early modern period the term was often used figuratively (as Aristotle had used it) to mean a pliant, flexible and accommodating principle of judgment.[1] In his famous letter to the Louvain theologian Martin Dorp, Thomas More referenced it when reproving Dorp for his attack on Erasmus' In Praise of Folly: "You praise Adriaan for being unbiased, yet you seem to suggest he is no more unbiased than a Lesbian rule, a rule made out of lead which, as Aristotle reminds us, is not always unbiased, since it bends to fit uneven shapes."[6] Samuel Daniel in 1603 described equity as "that Lesbian square, that building fit, Plies to the worke, not forc'th the worke to it".[7] In the later 17th century, the antiquary John Aubrey used the metaphor in a more pejorative sense, implying the distortion of evidence to fit a preconceived theory. He accused Inigo Jones, who had interpreted Stonehenge as a Roman monument, of having "made a Lesbians rule, which is conformed to the stone: that is, he framed the Monument to his own Hypothesis, which is much differing from the Thing it self".[8]

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Do you know what a lesbian rule is? (Original Post) sl8 Jan 2018 OP
Sorry, but that sounds made up. I have a flexible curve in my drawer* and never heard it refered to FSogol Jan 2018 #1
Not in Penguin's dictionary of Architecture. However it does include Lesbian Cymatium FSogol Jan 2018 #5
Wikipedia in error? Say it it ain't so! :) sl8 Jan 2018 #15
You are probably correct on it refering to the moulding gauge. OED has FSogol Jan 2018 #18
Live and learn. Thanks. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2018 #2
So if I bend my lesbian rule into a straight edge marylandblue Jan 2018 #3
well - OhZone Jan 2018 #4
On a slight tangent, a plumber friend of mine was telling me that many OnDoutside Jan 2018 #6
We still refer to types of fittings as either male or female Kaleva Jan 2018 #7
Yes, that's one thing but nipples, etc are another !!! OnDoutside Jan 2018 #8
Male and female electrical plugs. kwassa Jan 2018 #9
I was appalled when my physics prof boss told me to "stick the male into the female" LeftInTX Jan 2018 #10
It's probably for the best that he didn't ask you to get him a pair of dikes. :) n/t sl8 Jan 2018 #16
I was naive back then. LeftInTX Jan 2018 #19
It could mean dikes, as in levees, but I was thinking of diagonal cutters. sl8 Jan 2018 #20
Nipples is still being used Kaleva Jan 2018 #14
I do my own drip irrigation and hose repair. LeftInTX Jan 2018 #11
How would you know? Old timey plumbers in my youth said: FSogol Jan 2018 #17
This turned out not to go where I thought it would. aikoaiko Jan 2018 #12
I thought this was going to be about something else... milestogo Jan 2018 #13

FSogol

(45,586 posts)
1. Sorry, but that sounds made up. I have a flexible curve in my drawer* and never heard it refered to
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 10:27 AM
Jan 2018

as anything else.

* I studied architecture at a time when AutoCad was just starting and had to hand draft for years.

FSogol

(45,586 posts)
5. Not in Penguin's dictionary of Architecture. However it does include Lesbian Cymatium
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jan 2018

That's a cyma reversa moulding often decorated with leaf and dart.

sl8

(13,991 posts)
15. Wikipedia in error? Say it it ain't so! :)
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:19 PM
Jan 2018

I definitely take Wikipedia it with a grain of salt, but it is an excellent starting point.

A brief Google search turned up a lot of hits, most of them relied the same Aristotle reference. A couple of the grammar oriented sites (e.g., https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2009/03/lesbian-rule.html) reference an entry in the OED for the term.

The reference to plumbers and mouldings make me think of it as more a tool of tradesman than architects, used more like a modern contour gauge than the flexible rule pictured in the Wikipedia article. I could easily be wrong about that.

FSogol

(45,586 posts)
18. You are probably correct on it refering to the moulding gauge. OED has
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

a specialized dictionary of architectural terms. If I remember, the next time I'm in an architectural library, I'll look it up in the oldest edition I can find.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
3. So if I bend my lesbian rule into a straight edge
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 10:29 AM
Jan 2018

Have I performed conversion therapy? Will it damage my lesbian rule?

OnDoutside

(19,986 posts)
6. On a slight tangent, a plumber friend of mine was telling me that many
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 11:48 AM
Jan 2018

Of the terms used in plumbing were male/female in the rough terminology, but in recent years they've been changed to generic names, as more and more women have trained as plumbers, in order exclude overtly sexual connotations.

LeftInTX

(25,791 posts)
10. I was appalled when my physics prof boss told me to "stick the male into the female"
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:27 AM
Jan 2018

I had a summer job working at the physics department. We were loading up some gear for a demonstration. Instead of telling me to plug the contraption in, he told me "stick the male into the female". I was totally shocked. I had never heard that before.

I thought he was some type of pervert. I didn't tell anyone, not even my boyfriend. I just sat and stewed about it for months.

This is 45 years ago

LeftInTX

(25,791 posts)
19. I was naive back then.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 02:43 PM
Jan 2018

I would have been completely overwhelmed at the thought of building dikes. (Like the kind in Holland)

sl8

(13,991 posts)
20. It could mean dikes, as in levees, but I was thinking of diagonal cutters.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:00 PM
Jan 2018


No one I've met that actually uses them calls them "diagonal cutters", it's always ""dikes" or "pair of dikes".

LeftInTX

(25,791 posts)
11. I do my own drip irrigation and hose repair.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:30 AM
Jan 2018

It is always male and female adaptor.

Otherwise how would you know???

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