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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 02:53 AM Jan 2018

The worst Best Picture winner of the past fifty years was....

The list represents the 10 I thought most likely to get votes. Obviously, you'll let us all know what was missed.

I was hesitant about Spotlight, which I think has been widely forgotten, and I considered putting Argo on instead. In both cases, it is hard to know -- sometimes even five years out -- if a film withstands the test of time.

Crash and Dances with Wolves are on the list. These are not necessarily considered bad films; it's just that most people think Brokeback Mountain and Goodfellas were more deserving.

No films are on the list simply for the reason that they were directed by Mel Gibson or Woody Allen or produced by the Weinsteins. You are, of course, free to make that call.

Titanic is polarizing. At one level, it's schlocky melodrama. At another level, it's really meticulously filmed schlocky melodrama, with an outstanding cast.

The list cut off at 1967 (fifty years). C.B. DeMille's The Greatest Show on Earth (1952) (which is a fun film at a certain level) is widely considered to be the least deserving Best Picture winner of all time, with Around the World in 80 Days (1956) being a close runner-up.


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The Artist (2011)
4 (20%)
Crash (2005)
5 (25%)
Shakespeare in Love (1998)
1 (5%)
Titanic (1997)
4 (20%)
Oliver! (1968)
0 (0%)
Ordinary People (1980)
1 (5%)
The English Patient (1996)
1 (5%)
Spotlight (2015)
1 (5%)
Dances with Wolves (1990)
2 (10%)
Amadeus (1984)
1 (5%)
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The worst Best Picture winner of the past fifty years was.... (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 OP
Get Dances with Wolves off that list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! True Dough Jan 2018 #1
Agreed! DemKittyNC Jan 2018 #4
Must be an anti-Costner nomination! True Dough Jan 2018 #5
A lot of people thought it was the third best picture that year Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #29
I've never seen a movie that so closely followed the book underpants Jan 2018 #12
Then watch Being There discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #22
I like to watch. pressbox69 Jan 2018 #42
yeah... don't we all discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #49
Peter Sellers was perfect in the role....he was "Chance". OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2018 #79
I read (past tense) the book a long time ago discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #81
Yeah, it doesn't belong there. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #27
Pauline Kael, greatest reviewer of all time, disagrees with you on "Dances With Wolves". LisaM Jan 2018 #51
That is, indeed, a fine review. Shrike47 Jan 2018 #62
They used 2 very different wolves interchangeably, it was jarring to me uppityperson Jan 2018 #87
Plays With Camera was a dreary bore Wolf Frankula Jan 2018 #52
LOL - you and I both picked up the "Plays with Camera" line!! LisaM Jan 2018 #56
I agree... hlthe2b Jan 2018 #60
Amadeus does not belong on this list! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #2
one of few movies that actually generated tears at the end. that and Old Yeller. nt msongs Jan 2018 #9
I would have included GP6971 Jan 2018 #3
I never liked that one much either TexasBushwhacker Jan 2018 #10
I think that's my favorite Barry score. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #28
I thought about that Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #30
Yes, "Out of Africa." yallerdawg Jan 2018 #32
Fargo lunamagica Jan 2018 #6
Best Picture nominee, not winner. regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #17
I love Fargo. The movie, and the tv series. kwassa Jan 2018 #72
Forrest Gump Skittles Jan 2018 #7
And in a near epic year for film. RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #11
oh that made it stand out even more as pure dreck Skittles Jan 2018 #15
Pulp Fiction is the cinematic equivalent of Roy Moore Awsi Dooger Jan 2018 #82
Sorry you feel that way RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #86
I thought about putting it on the list as well Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #36
I didn't like Forrest Gump, I hated Titanic HopeAgain Jan 2018 #54
Yes! Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #64
Gets my vote. I loathe that movie. yardwork Jan 2018 #69
Dreck is too.. 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #84
No vote from me. They're all good. They all deserved the award. IMHO Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #8
There's also the reasons why something wins best picture that people don't factor Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #38
Shakespeare in Love - widely seen as the British element of the academy slapping Americans underpants Jan 2018 #13
SPR was robbed. I too was shocked. Hell even Shakespeare was shocked. pressbox69 Jan 2018 #43
Why isn't La La Land on that list? Sedona Jan 2018 #14
It didn't win Best Picture regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #16
Good Point! Sedona Jan 2018 #18
Terms or Endearment. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2018 #19
Dear gawd, me too. 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #85
Ugh! I hated that movie as well. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #96
I had to pass... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #20
My take on Shakespeare in Love is that it's a one-trick pony Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #39
Oliver may be overblown pressbox69 Jan 2018 #44
It does have some great songs, and Ron Moody turns in a standout performance. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #50
I saw Shani Wallis in an old "Murder, She Wrote" this week. LisaM Jan 2018 #57
"Annie Hall" Shrek Jan 2018 #21
No kidding. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #24
Star Wars is not that good. kwassa Jan 2018 #73
The winners the last few years have been pretty meh. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #23
I thought pressbox69 Jan 2018 #45
I thought Room should have won the year that it lost. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #61
Room was amazing TexasBushwhacker Jan 2018 #67
Crash is the worst. The Artist does not belong on that list. n/t FSogol Jan 2018 #25
The Artist would be my pick for worst winner Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #31
The Artist played with constrasts of a silent film and with being B&W and still FSogol Jan 2018 #35
We will have to agree to disagree Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #37
Braveheart. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #26
Notwithstanding Mel Gibson, Hollywood loves an action-epic Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #33
A turd. except for Patrick Mcgoohan. pressbox69 Jan 2018 #46
Dreadful film n/t TubbersUK Jan 2018 #58
I thought "Dances With Wolves" was highly over-rated. Paladin Jan 2018 #34
The English Patient LeftInTX Jan 2018 #40
Dr. Doolittle. Don't know if was more than 50 years. n/t patricia92243 Jan 2018 #41
No. pressbox69 Jan 2018 #47
Didn't win. Nominated, but lost to "In the Heat of the Night" Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #48
How is "Forrest Gump" not given as every other choice? LisaM Jan 2018 #53
As I said, I picked the 10 I thought would get the most votes. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #59
"Forrest Gump" is the Donald Trump of Best Picture winners nuxvomica Jan 2018 #70
dances with wolves. blechh. unblock Jan 2018 #55
Rocky - 1976. How did it beat Taxi Driver? jg10003 Jan 2018 #63
And Network. Archae Jan 2018 #65
and All the President's Men? kwassa Jan 2018 #75
Feel good movie. Hollywood loves boxing flicks. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #95
Man....that list is filled with overrated movies!! Docreed2003 Jan 2018 #66
The greatest njustice jrandom421 Jan 2018 #68
The Great Santini was infinitely better than Ordinary People, imo. red dog 1 Jan 2018 #76
The Hurt Locker was terrible! red dog 1 Jan 2018 #71
I liked Hurt Locker. kwassa Jan 2018 #74
La-La Land. What an abomination! dhol82 Jan 2018 #77
Only won Best Picture for 30 seconds Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #89
Monty Python And the Holy Grail! OhZone Jan 2018 #78
For years, it was the biggest return on investment film ever. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #94
I've seen 4 on the list MFM008 Jan 2018 #80
From that list...Dances With Wolves Awsi Dooger Jan 2018 #83
You aren't wedded to the list, but the topic is limited to Best Picture Oscar (TM) winners Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #88
Gladiator LudwigPastorius Jan 2018 #90
That was another I'd considered for the list Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #93
I've only seen half of those, LWolf Jan 2018 #91
My dad played the soundtrack a lot Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #92
Titanic seems to be on a lot of "hate" lists here and I don't really understand why. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #97
Obviously not everyone hates it Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #103
You could have titled this "Least Favorite Best Picture Winner" FakeNoose Jan 2018 #98
A little rancor is good Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #101
I always hated American Beauty and Ghost of Tom Joad Jan 2018 #99
It didn't occur to me to put American Beauty on the list. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #102
I think you have to be middle aged to appreciate American Beauty n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2018 #104
This right here is the correct answer. Dr. Strange Jan 2018 #105
Dances With Wolves red dog 1 Jan 2018 #100

True Dough

(17,383 posts)
5. Must be an anti-Costner nomination!
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:16 AM
Jan 2018

I'm not the biggest Costner fan myself, overall. But I have watched Dances with Wolves several times and enjoy every aspect of it.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
29. A lot of people thought it was the third best picture that year
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jan 2018

Personally, I'm a fan of the film and thought the Oscar (TM) was deserved.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,483 posts)
81. I read (past tense) the book a long time ago
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:54 PM
Jan 2018

I rented the DVD when it was available. Great author but a tragic fellow.

LisaM

(27,850 posts)
51. Pauline Kael, greatest reviewer of all time, disagrees with you on "Dances With Wolves".
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:34 PM
Jan 2018

I've never, ever forgotten her scathingly funny review of that movie, which I'll excerpt and link to. I did see the movie, and I did not like it at all, which is why it gives me great pleasure to do this. Apologies in advance!!

The film provides the groovy wisdom of the Sioux on the subjects of peace and togetherness: you never fight among yourselves—you negotiate. Each of the Indian characters is given a trait or two; they all come across as simpleminded, but so does the hero. Even the villains are endearingly dumb, the way they are in stories children write.
There’s nothing affected about Costner’s acting or directing. You hear his laid-back, surfer accent; you see his deliberate goofy faints and falls, and all the closeups of his handsomeness. This epic was made by a bland megalomaniac. (The Indians should have named him Plays with Camera.)


http://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2017/11/28/dances-with-wolves-1990-review-by-pauline-kael/

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
87. They used 2 very different wolves interchangeably, it was jarring to me
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:34 AM
Jan 2018

Did they really think we wouldn't notice the fact they were very different? Size, shape, ears, coloring. I mean, come on.

LisaM

(27,850 posts)
56. LOL - you and I both picked up the "Plays with Camera" line!!
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jan 2018

You, too, must have remembered Kael's humorous review, which I've linked to above.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,254 posts)
10. I never liked that one much either
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:15 AM
Jan 2018

although it had beautiful cinematography and a great soundtrack by John Barry.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
32. Yes, "Out of Africa."
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jan 2018

It's the only movie I have never regretted paying to see and falling asleep in the theater.

To this day, I go into a hypnotic somnambulistic trance whenever I hear the words, "I had a..."

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
11. And in a near epic year for film.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:38 AM
Jan 2018

Pulp Fiction, Shawshank, Quiz Show, Ed Wood, Madness of King George....

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
82. Pulp Fiction is the cinematic equivalent of Roy Moore
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:09 PM
Jan 2018

I am livid every time I remember the so-called friends who took me to see that atrocity.

Forrest Gump was sheer brilliance.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
86. Sorry you feel that way
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:13 AM
Jan 2018

Pulp Fiction was the most enjoyable and memorable experience I ever had in a packed movie theater.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
36. I thought about putting it on the list as well
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jan 2018

On one hand, it's had cultural impact: "Life is like a box of chocolates...", "Stupid is as stupid does...", and "Run Forrest, Run" are part of pop culture. Bubba Gump restaurants still serve shrimp. It had a helluva cast.

On the other hand, the film has not aged well. And it was telling that Hanks steadfastly refused to do a sequel, even though the writer, the director, and the studio wanted to.

There are many films (not just on this list and not just in the last fifty years) that have won best picture that people look back five years later and realize the wrong film won. In this case, I think most people would agree that Shawshank Redemption should have won best picture.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
8. No vote from me. They're all good. They all deserved the award. IMHO
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:32 AM
Jan 2018

But then I'm a film enjoyer rather than a film snob. I can only think of a couple movies I did not enjoy. Battlefield Earth tops that list, but even Plan 9 From Outer Space and Glen or Glenda were thoroughly enjoyable in their own twisted way.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
38. There's also the reasons why something wins best picture that people don't factor
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 01:36 PM
Jan 2018

in how the voting is done. It's similar to the way people can't understand why the big blockbusters don't get nominated most of the time, such as comic book movies or science fiction fare. It's not about popularity (most of the time) but the actual craft and impact.

And more often than not, how much promotion went into winning over votes in the academy.

underpants

(183,014 posts)
13. Shakespeare in Love - widely seen as the British element of the academy slapping Americans
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:53 AM
Jan 2018

in the face for Saving Private Ryan. I remember I was actually shocked that Ryan didn't win. The opening 30 minutes alone was unlike anything I'd ever seen on film.

Sedona

(3,770 posts)
14. Why isn't La La Land on that list?
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:03 AM
Jan 2018

Amadeus and Dances with Wolves do not belong in poll.

Can't vote on that question if La La Land isn't included. It was completely unwatchable

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
16. It didn't win Best Picture
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:25 AM
Jan 2018

…as you may not recall, if you turned the show off right after the award-winner was first "announced."

3catwoman3

(24,117 posts)
85. Dear gawd, me too.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:21 AM
Jan 2018

Somewhere about halfway thru, my brain was screaming, "Just DIE ALREADY!" at Debra Winger's character.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
20. I had to pass...
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:44 AM
Jan 2018

As emotionally-satisfying as it would to vote for Titanic just on the principle of the thing, I can't say it was more-deserving of the "honor" than The English Patient, which totally butchered one of the finest English-language novels of the past fifty years (and, if you haven't read it, DO SO!). For that matter, I could also point to Ordinary People (another hatchet-job on a good book) or Oliver! (I know musicals were big in the '60s, but director Carol Reed took a all-singing! all-dancing! Technicolor '40s musical approach that was totally at odds not only with the source material but also with the stage musical on which it was based).

And no criticism of Shakespeare in Love, please -- it was one of the cleverest films ever, and it was rare to see a Hollywood film so designed to appeal to a literate audience (although my own pick for that year would have been the unnominated The Truman Show). By contrast, although Saving Private Ryan had some overwhelming action sequences, if you looked beyond them and the Spielberg mystique, you were left with a very clichéd WWII drama (complete with the platoon-as-microcosm-of-America) with some gaping plot holes.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
39. My take on Shakespeare in Love is that it's a one-trick pony
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jan 2018

Everyone has preferred genres of film. In America, within that subset of "everyone" is a large group of people that would rather sit through root canal than deal with anything related to Shakespeare - fictional or real, no matter how clever. It brings back bad flashbacks to high school English.

I agree the film was really clever and funny. For whatever reason (it may just be me, but I don't think so), it doesn't hold up in repeat viewings. It's kind of like Sleuth, Deathtrap, or The Crying Game in that respect.

Overall, I'd have given Best Picture to Saving Private Ryan, but I agree that it's an imperfect film.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
44. Oliver may be overblown
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jan 2018

but the scene where Shani Wallace sings As Long As He Needs Me is for the ages. Those weepy violins break me down every time. I keep saying stay away from that black heart Nancy he's going to kill you. Funny thing is that scene reminds me less of the original show and more of Judy Garland when she did it on her TV show.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
50. It does have some great songs, and Ron Moody turns in a standout performance.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jan 2018

(which is to take nothing away from Oliver Reed or Harry Secombe). And it's beautifully filmed.

The question to me is "Is it a better film than Funny Girl or The Lion in Winter?" I'd have to say no on both counts.

LisaM

(27,850 posts)
57. I saw Shani Wallis in an old "Murder, She Wrote" this week.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:40 PM
Jan 2018

She is awfully likeable. For my money, her best song in "Oliver!" is "Oom Pah Pah".




kwassa

(23,340 posts)
73. Star Wars is not that good.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:08 PM
Jan 2018

Lucas rips off a number of sources, and steals the plot from a Japanese samurai movie, "The Hidden Fortress".

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
23. The winners the last few years have been pretty meh.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 09:24 AM
Jan 2018

Spotlight was about as exciting as your average episode of Law and Order: SVU. I didn't think Moonlight was all that great, either.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
61. I thought Room should have won the year that it lost.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 06:12 PM
Jan 2018

Not "The Room", but "Room". Period.

My wife and I made a point to see all of the nominated movies that year, and of all of them, Room was the one that moved us the most. We talked about that movie constantly for weeks. I STILL think about it. That poor little kid. What would you do in that situation?

My personal judgment of any work of art hinges on whether I am still thinking about it or talking about it days, or even weeks, later. That's what great art is all about.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,254 posts)
67. Room was amazing
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jan 2018

I was so glad Brie Larson won Best Actress. The little Jacob Tremblay has a great career ahead of him if he doesn't burn out. He has 2 sisters who act as well.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
31. The Artist would be my pick for worst winner
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jan 2018

I didn't see it as original or particularly well done.

Shakespeare in Love would be a close second.

FSogol

(45,586 posts)
35. The Artist played with constrasts of a silent film and with being B&W and still
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jan 2018

could be joyous and inventive. There was one scene where someone had a gun, contemplating suicide and then you see a title card reading "bang". The bang turns out to be an auto wreck. That type of misdirection is impossible with sound since everyone can distinguish the different in sounds. Most people I know that criticize the artist dislike silent and/or b&w films and didn't give it a chance. The Artist is a masterpiece and might be the best film out of all the ones on the OP's list.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
37. We will have to agree to disagree
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jan 2018
The Artist struck me as what one got by doing a mashup of Dick Van Dyke's The Comic and Mel Brooks' Silent Movie. My reaction when I saw it is the same reaction I have now - "it's been done."

My daughter and I have a similar argument. I personally like the film The King's Speech. She vehemently argues that The Social Network should have won that year. Her logic is that the industry has done countless English period pieces, and that it brought nothing original to the table. I'm forced to concede that she has a point.

Paladin

(28,285 posts)
34. I thought "Dances With Wolves" was highly over-rated.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jan 2018

I can live with the rest of the flicks indicated, although I agree that "Titanic" was marginal---"L.A. Confidential" was robbed, that year....

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
48. Didn't win. Nominated, but lost to "In the Heat of the Night"
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:20 PM
Jan 2018

The other nominees that year were Bonnie & Clyde, The Graduate, and Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

Dr. Doolittle never had a chance at winning.

nuxvomica

(12,467 posts)
70. "Forrest Gump" is the Donald Trump of Best Picture winners
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 04:51 PM
Jan 2018

As Trump is the "Forrest Gump" of U.S. Presidents: an aberration, an embarassment, a holy-shit-how-the-fuck-did-this-happen thing.

unblock

(52,494 posts)
55. dances with wolves. blechh.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 05:36 PM
Jan 2018

i'll agree there were aspects of that movie that weren't horrible, particularly the further away from costner you got.

but costner ruined it for me. and i'm not a complete anti-costner, he's found some scripts that are suitable to his limited range, and those movies work (field of dreams, bull durham, e.g.)

but i could not buy for one moment that costner wasn't a present day person reading a script from a different era. he did not get into the role at all and it ruined any suspension of disbelief necessary to really draw me into the movie.

but best picture?

ridiculous.

Docreed2003

(16,900 posts)
66. Man....that list is filled with overrated movies!!
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jan 2018

I saw “Titanic” multiple times in the theater with my ex-wife, don’t judge me she was a Titanic junky!! I love the accuracy and attention to historic detail, but the actual screenplay is shit! (FYI, there’s no fucking way Jack couldn’t have gotten on that fucking door!!!) “Good Will Hunting” and “L.A. Confidential” are not only better movies, both have held up better than “Titanic”

I actually walked out of the “English Patient”....only movie I’ve ever walked out of, and I love movies....And some are quite shitty movies! However, look at the other nominees that year! “Jerry fucking Mcquire” was nominated for “best picture”. I mean I guess, in retrospect, “Fargo” is a better film, but that was a weak ass year for movies!

While my heart wanted to scream out “Forrest Gump” , there’s no fucking way...NONE, ZERO, ZILCH...that you can convince me that “FG” is better than “Pulp Fiction” or “Shawshank”...hell “Quiz Show” was better!

But no, sadly “Crash” takes the cake. That flick is a one watch, never watch again shitshow that tries to seem emotional by beating you over the head with its emotion....”Brokeback Mountain” was and still is the “Best Picture” of that year. Even looking over the other nominees that year, take “BM” out of the consideration, “Munich”, “Capote”, “Good Night, and Good Luck”, all are better films and have held up significantly better than “Crash”

jrandom421

(1,005 posts)
68. The greatest njustice
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:55 PM
Jan 2018

Was when "Ordinary People" won Best Picture, and "The Great Santini" wasn't even nominated.

red dog 1

(27,916 posts)
76. The Great Santini was infinitely better than Ordinary People, imo.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:22 PM
Jan 2018

[The Great Santini, written by Pat Conroy, is one of the best novels I've ever read]

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
94. For years, it was the biggest return on investment film ever.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:59 PM
Jan 2018

They made it for about a hundred grand. A pittance even in '74. IIRC, Blair Witch Project finally captured the title.

MFM008

(19,834 posts)
80. I've seen 4 on the list
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:58 PM
Jan 2018

And Amadeus? Really?
There's one that I thought should never have won best picture and that was Forrest Gump ...even though I love Tom Hanks .....it should have been the Shawshank Redemption.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
83. From that list...Dances With Wolves
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:13 PM
Jan 2018

But every article, broadcast, thread or poll that deals with worst movies of any type should focus on Pulp Fiction and Pulp Fiction alone

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
88. You aren't wedded to the list, but the topic is limited to Best Picture Oscar (TM) winners
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jan 2018

...since 1967.

Pulp Fiction was nominated, but did not win.

LudwigPastorius

(9,257 posts)
90. Gladiator
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:19 PM
Jan 2018

...a decent action movie, but Best Picture caliber?

Memento, Cast Away, O Brother Where Art Thou?, and Requiem For A Dream were not nominated, but were all better films that year.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
91. I've only seen half of those,
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jan 2018

and of those I did see, only "Titanic" fits on a possible list of worsts. I saw it 10 years after the fact, and was unimpressed.

"Oliver?" I saw it in 1968 and loved it. For years, I could sing all those songs, word for word, I saw it so many times after the first. Of course, in 1968, I was only 8 years old, so I probably had a different set of criteria for good movies. My favorite childhood movie of all times is Mary Poppins, which is also a "Best Picture."

I still love "Ordinary People" and watch it again every few years.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
92. My dad played the soundtrack a lot
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:54 PM
Jan 2018

It's a well made film. I think The Lion In Winter was better, however.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
97. Titanic seems to be on a lot of "hate" lists here and I don't really understand why.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 08:52 PM
Jan 2018

It almost seems trendy to dislike it. I saw it a long time ago and don't remember a lot about it, but I didn't think it was that awful. I can think of a lot of films that were much worse. It wasn't the best film, but I don't think it deserves the hate it's getting here.

Just curious, why do people hate it so much?

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
103. Obviously not everyone hates it
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:57 PM
Jan 2018

It went up against these films for Best Picture

As Good as It Gets
The Full Monty
Good Will Hunting
L.A. Confidential


Most critics, I think, would say LA Confidential was the best film.

What's good about Titanic: it's meticulously researched and filmed; it's a true story that simultaneously serves as cautionary tale of hubris and man vs. nature; the story has larger than life real characters, such as Molly Brown and John Jacob Astor; it's a story about heroism and cowardice; it's a story about every reason we'd all love to be rich while simultaneously showing egregious classism; the effects were amazing; DiCaprio and Winslet have great on-screen chemistry; the "King of the World" scene is one of the most iconic moments in American film; and Gloria Stuart.

What's bad about Titanic: It's melodramatic; it has some really bad writing; the characters are two-dimensional; it's really long; the whole subplot with the star of the ocean and the treasure hunt is annoying; it really sucks to think that Gloria Stuart survived, met a husband, had kids, and raised a family and in the end her version of the afterlife is going back to Titanic to be with DiCaprio; Celine Dion -- if you were around during that era, you heard "My Heart Will Go On" again and again and again (and again) for like five years; it's ultra mainstream and ultra commercial.

Cameron invokes that kind of mixed reaction. Avatar made truckloads of money, so somebody must have liked it. Visually, it's amazing. Disney is ready to make many sequels. Yet, most critics say the same thing -- it's Disney's Pocohontas with blue aliens.

FakeNoose

(32,897 posts)
98. You could have titled this "Least Favorite Best Picture Winner"
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 09:04 PM
Jan 2018

... if you had called it "least favorite" instead of "worst" there would be less rancor in these comments.

Some people love Titanic, other people hate it. But it sure made a lot of money and that's normally one of the deciding factors in Hollywood, rightly or wrongly. Most of us have strong opinions about whether we like the movie or not, but deciding if it's the best or worst, we leave that up to the professional reviewers and movie makers.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
101. A little rancor is good
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:29 PM
Jan 2018

It's the Lounge, and we're debating film awards. I don't think anyone is too seriously hacked off about any of this. I certainly hope not.

I'm going to respond to Titanic in another comment.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,254 posts)
104. I think you have to be middle aged to appreciate American Beauty n/t
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 12:06 AM
Jan 2018

I think you to have experienced "living a life of quiet desperation".

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