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Ive got a friend who tells me at every opportunity that soy is the downfall of humanity. Whatever ails us as a society, its the soy beans that did it. They increase violent tendencies, they make us fat and lazy, they run farmers out of business, and so on. He laments at how hard it is to find food that doesnt include soy in some capacity, and for a while was resigned to eating nothing but chicken hot dogs and bags of frozen peas; anything else had unacceptable levels of the Devils Bean. Overall hes a really great guy, kind of person who could fix anything with a roll of duct tape and a trip to the scrap pile, but you might think twice if he invites you over for dinner.
So when he recently told me about all the trouble people are having with soy-based electrical wiring, I thought it was just the latest conspiracy theory to join his usual stories. I told him it didnt make any sense, theres no way somebody managed to develop a reliable soy-derived conductor. No, no, he says, not the conductor. They are making the insulation out of soy, and animals are chewing through it.
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Frustrated Motorists, Happy Rats
Sure enough, a Google search for soy wires will get you plenty of hits about people who are experiencing a very strange problem. During the night, animals are getting up into the engine compartments of their cars and eating the insulation off the wiring harness. It isnt just one or two cases either, its enough of a problem that some car manufacturers are getting hit with class-action lawsuits.
Daniel Dobbs, et al. v. American Honda Motor Co. Inc claimed that Honda vehicles manufactured from 2012 to 2015 made use of soy insulated wires on the basis of it not only being better for the environment, but cheaper than traditional insulation. Unfortunately, this type of insulation is also very popular with the local wildlife:
Unbeknownst to Plaintiffs, however, a real and contentious unintended and undesired consequence of this soy-based insulation material is that it attracts rodents and other animals that are drawn by the soy content of the insulation, and proceed to chew through the insulation and electrical wires that the insulation coats
https://hackaday.com/2018/01/15/theyre-putting-soy-in-your-wires-man/
lapfog_1
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(29,243 posts)I'm tempted to appeal my resistance to a circuit court as an outlet, but it seems your surge of reasoning is well grounded, insulated from any spike I could generate.
lapfog_1
(29,243 posts)but I wouldn't use soybeans
unc70
(6,128 posts)Soy can really screw with metabolism. There is some research that it mimics estrogens in ways that cause weight gains and possibly causes earlier puberty. While soy has been in human diets for a long time, never in the large amounts found now with soy padding so many prepared food items.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 21, 2018, 07:53 PM - Edit history (1)
US processed products . Fermented soy is different and found to have health benefits
I won't go on to be called crazy, but he is not so off about some issues imo and some medical papers opinion too
and Can really be an issue with growing children due to hormones
Eating whole unprocessed foods is a good way to avoid soy
If he must eat processed tell him a lot of products are substituting lechitin soy with sunflower now.
although that does not contain phytoestrogens and is not as much a problem as soy protein powder, soy protein isolate, and isolated soy protein (read the ingredient list and maybe he can compromise in accepting the lechitin not isolates) but many avoid the lechitin too
also remind him most Cafo animals (and their off products like milk, eggs) are fed soy now so those chickens he is eating ?, depends on his concerns and how far he wants to take it but the majority of soy is going into animal feed and pets too. Even the eggs have been found to have soy isoflavones, a type of phytoestrogen, in them. However, the amount is very low So is there a worry and can you escape it if eating on the higher food chain? Yes outdoor year round which many will tell you is not so easy or cheap to do with animals. Farmers in England will tell you soy is preferred over BSE mad cow that's what driving some of the soy feed too as opposed to animal product for well, other animals.
Pick your battles with soy I would say
Soy is resourceful in areas of malnutrition A helpful cheap protein that's a fact . Soy or die ?
Soy
No one in starving areas unless they have a severe allergy is going to turn away from unfermented soy powder that's for sure but it's one of the most environmentally offensive agricultural crops in the world. Replacing soybean oil with for instance, olive oil is not only a healthier option, but is a relatively low-impact crop But soybean oil again is not a phytoestrogen issue like the isolates used in packaged food so again it is not just one " soy is bad for you" there are many issues and it does a lot of good in starving areas of the world