if I have to do it, I'm going to call it the Dany is Fucked episode.

OMG... it is absolutely crazy out there... But, yes the running theory is that Varys was trying to get the girl to poison Dany (and might actually do so later now that Varys is dead--who knows). Yes, there is also a theory that he poisoned her successfully before death with a nonlethal poison that might make her crazy. Some of the other predictions and interpretations are just as bizarre.

Note the petitions with more than 500,000 signatures from mad GOT fans that want a "repeat" on season 8... !

I will have to see the finale on recording after the fact, so will be avoiding all threads on the issue until then, but... enjoy!

Why else would would they be worried about the guards watching the little bird? Also “the bigger the risk the bigger the reward” comment could only refer to the little bird taking a risk... poisoning Dany

I doubt Varys would give her something to make her crazy and do the exact thing they were trying to avoid.

Considering everything, a given really (poisoning her). Recall how the last episode recalled earlier episodes and things people said and did.

Oh, without doubt Varys committed treason against Daenerys. But then we knew he always would if the realm was at stake in his opinion. His loyalty was always and only to the realm - the people. Daenerys was a vehicle to Varys until she wasn't. He played his game and lost - kind of. The thing is - he was ready to lose. Varys could always escape. That was a skill he had others did not. He knew when the getting was good and how to escape.

The seeds of his doubt were planted in Tyrion. So, there is that.

Still...

I knew Varys would die eventually.

Still...

I wanted Varys to die early on. He could have saved Ned.

Still...

Harsh way to go for Varys.

Not exactly an unheard of way for treason to be dealt with (death), still harsh. Daenerys didn't really crack, per se, until she started roasting civilians. There is no good in that. None.

Dany's vision, where she sees herself walk into a destroyed building, then walks to the throne, which is just recognizable as the throne in King's Landing. She reaches for the throne, but never touches it. Instead she walks out to any icy scene with a hut where she becomes reunited with Khal Drogo and the baby Dany lost at childbirth. That is a prescient vision of her future. She was instrumental in destroying King's Landing, and her reward will be reuniting with the two people that meant the most to her in her lifetime.

And you know what that means? IT MEANS WE GET TO SEE JASON MOMOA IN A POST SUPERSTAR CAMEO. I knew you when.

I'm just saying, the GOT production team had better deliver to make it up to us.

Maybe the vision means Jon kills Daenerys.

Which is that he seems to have a terminal case of "grass is always greener," when it comes to kings. He's served under a number of monarchs, and has been involved in undermining/overthrowing every single one of them. I think that while Varys might have benign intentions, what he really wants is a king that he can control.

And it could be argued that the resultant constant civil wars is a lot more destructive to the lives of ordinary people that just putting up with a crappy king for awhile.

Not necessarily what was actually good... but only what Varys thought was good.

I agree that the constant wars hurt considerably more people. More destructive.

I am mainly talking from Varys' view - he saw his actions as loyalty to the realm. Not to a ruler but to the people. Which, again, isn't necessarily an actual good.

But considering his life events, his view would always be colored by the anger he felt about what happened to him as a child. No agency and acted upon.

He treated rulers and nobles like they (not all though) treated others - as pawns. Varys saw his goals as good, just as he viewed Littlefinger as a self-serving wannabe. Though both sought to move the rulers and nobles (of actual great houses, in LF's case) in ways that best served their goals.

Both thought they were smarter and both wanted to "best" the noble houses and rulers.

It's not as if Varys would have given up palace life, so to speak...had he lived...for any reason.

"He's served under a number of monarchs, and has been involved in undermining/overthrowing every single one of them. I think that while Varys might have benign intentions, what he really wants is a king that he can control."

The Stephen Miller of GoT.

And just because he is gone does not mean they will stop trying.

Another interesting thing I spotted is just before they came to take him away to his fate he was writing a note and put it in a little container, I mean he knew they were coming so to whom was the note for and what did it say?

While I'm at what's the deal with Arya and the horse, that girl she was trying to save was holding a toy white horse and then boom, a horse appears. There is more I can say about this to but I'll leave it for now.

I would say that given the writers went to the effort of setting both Varys and Arya's arcs then I hope both these issues will become clearer.

Also I'm not in on the series bashing, I love this season and if people have problems with whatever we end up with then just wait for the books, I'm guessing they will be worse for those with problems now.

I didn't catch much of it, and I'm not even sure it was ever fully in frame, but there was enough, especially in context.

Which highlighted that but haven't got around to watching it.

Most of the main players will be aware of his lineage so the note is for someone who doesn't know. The Vale? Someone else?
This ain't finished yet. lol

But, how many have already been sent out by crow, before he was caught?

We know it is significant because the camera stayed on his hands the entire time.

It is highly possible that is one of those infamous poisoner rings. Maybe that note is being left to advise the finder to use that ring. That finder could be someone other than Jon or Tyrion. Maybe Arya disguises herself and administers the poison? Sansa somehow acquires these tools and manages to get rid of her. Not too likely unless Sansa has to come down to Dragonstone for some sort of Warden Conference. Maybe Daffy Cousin Jon decides it would be jolly fun .....

After the carnage at King's Landing, Jon may finally find his feet with his moral code and take her out.

Who knows? This episode is where we reach the point of who is left standing.

Ygritte was right about him. "You know nothing, Jon Snow."

That was the writer giving us a big hint, and it doesn't just apply to his real identity. He was really naive about breaking his promise to Dany.

That was hinted at in the big conversation between Tyrion and Varys.
I did not think about Dany may have taken in some poison and that caused her madness.
Interesting possibility posted here.
Maybe she couldn't hear the bells?

I think Tyrion will have terrible guilt because Varys was right.

What will Tyrion do?