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Marthe48

(17,065 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:00 PM Jan 2020

Discovered archaology and geology on You Tube

I am enjoying documentaries showing fact-based information, but also watching some theoretical shows. One thing that occurred to me is that if aliens came to Earth and founded ancient civilizations, why would they build in stone? Why would they write their records in stone or damp clay? Seems like if they had the technology to build pyramids, they'd have the technology to make easy to use and store media for information storage.

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Discovered archaology and geology on You Tube (Original Post) Marthe48 Jan 2020 OP
Stop trying to confuse people with facts. nt Phoenix61 Jan 2020 #1
Do you have any specific shows to recommend? Cousin Dupree Jan 2020 #2
Since no one else did... Popcorn Samurai Jan 2020 #6
I'm a huge Time Team fan! I've seen every episode. Thanks. Cousin Dupree Jan 2020 #8
Time Team is one of the shows Marthe48 Jan 2020 #11
Little known fact jberryhill Jan 2020 #3
The way humans use asphalt and concrete Marthe48 Jan 2020 #12
Heh jberryhill Jan 2020 #15
There are 6 enormous stones at the top of Ollantaytambo weighing 50 to 100 tons each Ponietz Jan 2020 #4
People are very clever, aren't they jberryhill Jan 2020 #5
That's a great vision Marthe48 Jan 2020 #13
But... Popcorn Samurai Jan 2020 #7
Thanks Ponietz Jan 2020 #10
The ancient space aliens recorded knowledge and wisdom for the ages ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2020 #9
:) lol Marthe48 Jan 2020 #14

Popcorn Samurai

(30 posts)
6. Since no one else did...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:11 PM
Jan 2020

Look for a show called Time Team. They have 20+ seasons on YouTube of varying quality. The premise is they have just three days to find out what they can about the site, mostly based in England. I've watched them all multiple times. For Black Adder fans it is hosted by Tony Robinson.

Marthe48

(17,065 posts)
11. Time Team is one of the shows
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jan 2020

You Tube makes suggestions based on what I watch. I was watching English mysteries and YT rec. Time Team. From there, several other factual shows, which I'll have to look up later. DDTV has some documentaries which show actual sites, but speculate about who made them and when. I started watching Viper TV yesterday and they have documentaries, which have a good narration but file videos that don't go along with what they are talking about. The Sumerian creation story explained as cosmology was fascinating.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Little known fact
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jan 2020

Actually, all of the ancient alien technology was based on stone.

They had humongous intergalactic spacecraft made out of rocks.

In fact, that’s exactly what those ancient megaliths ARE!

But, yeah, it sucks that they weren’t able to manage to figure out any durable medium of information storage while they were busy teaching the humans present at various specific locations how to build one-off stone structures.

Kinda like how, today, they only present themselves to the US government, which then covers them up.

Marthe48

(17,065 posts)
12. The way humans use asphalt and concrete
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:34 PM
Jan 2020

I've thought we want to convert the Earth into a sphere that hurtles through space.

Oh, wait---

Ponietz

(3,044 posts)
4. There are 6 enormous stones at the top of Ollantaytambo weighing 50 to 100 tons each
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:58 PM - Edit history (1)

They are andesite quarried on another mountain 4 km across the river valley. No extant beasts of burden, no wheel. There is no conventional satisfactory explanation for their presence. There is plenty of room for speculation as to their construction as long as one does not become credulous or supercilious.

[link:https://uncoveredhistory.com/south-america/exploring-the-mysteries-of-the-andes/|





 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. People are very clever, aren't they
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jan 2020

One of the other things that bugs me about the "ancient aliens" nonsense is that much of it appears to be based on the same reasoning that European conquerors used to determine that the inhabitants of the New World were merely savages. Coming from that perspective, savages, of course, could not have accomplished impressive feats of engineering.

"Technology" is specific to the people and materials at hand. People - even ancient people living in the Andes - were every bit as intelligent as people are today. The same brilliant minds that have sent probes to the moons of Saturn were just as prevalent among those people.

What they had, however, was a completely different set of experience and knowledge about the materials and techniques that had been developed over the course of centuries working with stone, and solving problems posed by the gap between their imagination, reality, and the materials with which they were familiar.

Bridging that gap between imagination and reality is what engineering is all about. And if you set those minds into the context of people who had been working with those materials, those landscapes, and trying every technique which occurred to them - while refining the ones that worked well - then of course they developed techniques which are not obvious to us, because we are locked into the technological context in which we live. We don't really spend several generations at a time thinking, "Hmmmm. How can I get a big block of that rock from over there to over here?" because we have entirely different ways of approaching the problem from our own technological context.

Marthe48

(17,065 posts)
13. That's a great vision
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020

I used to think that humans could do it. They had time and they didn't have distractions as we do. The people were probably happy to do the work because they were promised something as a reward.

The sheer size of some of the monoliths blows me away.

Ponietz

(3,044 posts)
10. Thanks
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jan 2020

But, just perhaps, it might have gone differently. For instance, maybe we were able to use an extinct Pleistocene megafauna species as beasts of burden. South America had enormous camels and mastodons. Food for thought.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,375 posts)
9. The ancient space aliens recorded knowledge and wisdom for the ages ...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jan 2020

... on eight-track tapes. We primitives pretty much ignored the medium, and now it is once again lost to us. Perhaps in another million years or so, ...

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