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I am enjoying documentaries showing fact-based information, but also watching some theoretical shows. One thing that occurred to me is that if aliens came to Earth and founded ancient civilizations, why would they build in stone? Why would they write their records in stone or damp clay? Seems like if they had the technology to build pyramids, they'd have the technology to make easy to use and store media for information storage.
Phoenix61
(17,023 posts)Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)Popcorn Samurai
(30 posts)Look for a show called Time Team. They have 20+ seasons on YouTube of varying quality. The premise is they have just three days to find out what they can about the site, mostly based in England. I've watched them all multiple times. For Black Adder fans it is hosted by Tony Robinson.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)Marthe48
(17,065 posts)You Tube makes suggestions based on what I watch. I was watching English mysteries and YT rec. Time Team. From there, several other factual shows, which I'll have to look up later. DDTV has some documentaries which show actual sites, but speculate about who made them and when. I started watching Viper TV yesterday and they have documentaries, which have a good narration but file videos that don't go along with what they are talking about. The Sumerian creation story explained as cosmology was fascinating.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Actually, all of the ancient alien technology was based on stone.
They had humongous intergalactic spacecraft made out of rocks.
In fact, thats exactly what those ancient megaliths ARE!
But, yeah, it sucks that they werent able to manage to figure out any durable medium of information storage while they were busy teaching the humans present at various specific locations how to build one-off stone structures.
Kinda like how, today, they only present themselves to the US government, which then covers them up.
Marthe48
(17,065 posts)I've thought we want to convert the Earth into a sphere that hurtles through space.
Oh, wait---
See? We beat you to it. Now, keep quiet. A lot of people dont know.
Ponietz
(3,044 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:58 PM - Edit history (1)
They are andesite quarried on another mountain 4 km across the river valley. No extant beasts of burden, no wheel. There is no conventional satisfactory explanation for their presence. There is plenty of room for speculation as to their construction as long as one does not become credulous or supercilious.
[link:https://uncoveredhistory.com/south-america/exploring-the-mysteries-of-the-andes/|
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)One of the other things that bugs me about the "ancient aliens" nonsense is that much of it appears to be based on the same reasoning that European conquerors used to determine that the inhabitants of the New World were merely savages. Coming from that perspective, savages, of course, could not have accomplished impressive feats of engineering.
"Technology" is specific to the people and materials at hand. People - even ancient people living in the Andes - were every bit as intelligent as people are today. The same brilliant minds that have sent probes to the moons of Saturn were just as prevalent among those people.
What they had, however, was a completely different set of experience and knowledge about the materials and techniques that had been developed over the course of centuries working with stone, and solving problems posed by the gap between their imagination, reality, and the materials with which they were familiar.
Bridging that gap between imagination and reality is what engineering is all about. And if you set those minds into the context of people who had been working with those materials, those landscapes, and trying every technique which occurred to them - while refining the ones that worked well - then of course they developed techniques which are not obvious to us, because we are locked into the technological context in which we live. We don't really spend several generations at a time thinking, "Hmmmm. How can I get a big block of that rock from over there to over here?" because we have entirely different ways of approaching the problem from our own technological context.
Marthe48
(17,065 posts)I used to think that humans could do it. They had time and they didn't have distractions as we do. The people were probably happy to do the work because they were promised something as a reward.
The sheer size of some of the monoliths blows me away.
Popcorn Samurai
(30 posts)...how many thousands of people did they have? Have a listen to the podcast. Feder knows his stuff.
[link:https://monstertalk.skeptic.com/ancient-alien-astronauts-interview-with-ken-feder|
Ponietz
(3,044 posts)But, just perhaps, it might have gone differently. For instance, maybe we were able to use an extinct Pleistocene megafauna species as beasts of burden. South America had enormous camels and mastodons. Food for thought.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,375 posts)... on eight-track tapes. We primitives pretty much ignored the medium, and now it is once again lost to us. Perhaps in another million years or so, ...
Marthe48
(17,065 posts)I still have our 8 tracks in a box, in the basement.