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OOOHHH, NOW I see why she's divorcing him. (Original Post) nolabear Jun 2012 OP
Got me. texanwitch Jun 2012 #1
I know "SP" means "supressive person" nolabear Jun 2012 #6
I only watched the first few minutes because the video is edited poorly. ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #2
You mean he's not nuts? Tobin S. Jun 2012 #5
Hard to say. He uses a very different belief system than me, ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #8
Oh me either. But what impressed me was the combo of extreme conviction nolabear Jun 2012 #10
No, I think it's a Scientology video. It is edited like mad, I agree. nolabear Jun 2012 #7
What a tool. Tobin S. Jun 2012 #3
What in the name of fuck? graywarrior Jun 2012 #4
"Tom Cruise Scientology-Video Glossary: What Is He Talking About?" (A Guide--LOL) hlthe2b Jun 2012 #9
Helpful! But there's still no there there. nolabear Jun 2012 #12
Damn, I posted this in the religion group at about the same time as you did here in Da Lounge EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2012 #11
Over 9 minutes of slo mo Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #13
The warranty on Oprah's couch expired?! Or - wait for it - the CONTRACT EXPIRED!1 n/t UTUSN Jun 2012 #14
Bonkers. blue neen Jun 2012 #15
"I know. I KNOW!" He knows what? Only HE can help. Only WE can create a new reality. WTF? Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #16
Geez - this seems like satire... cyberswede Jun 2012 #17
Yeah, I remember when that first was leaked. progressoid Jun 2012 #18
the latest on the divorce warrior1 Jun 2012 #19
Looks like he only wants younger wifes. texanwitch Jun 2012 #23
Well, there is this biopic... nolabear Jun 2012 #25
She filed the papers in New York. Wants sole custody of their daughter. benld74 Jun 2012 #20
And now, a message from Captain Obvious: nolabear Jun 2012 #21
You can't explain that... pinboy3niner Jun 2012 #22
Dude? libodem Jun 2012 #24
He always creeped me out. caseymoz Jun 2012 #26
I'm sorry to say I understood most of the Ronspeak. pa28 Jun 2012 #27
He's always made my skin crawl.....full blown megalomaniac. Avalux Jun 2012 #28
Reminds me of young adults who've found The Truth while exploring with drugs. JohnnyLib2 Jun 2012 #29
This is bad timing. Scientology is not the crazyass cult that I want under public scrutiny right now Tom Ripley Jun 2012 #30
Yeah, I understand. But maybe suspicion by association... nolabear Jul 2012 #31

nolabear

(42,009 posts)
6. I know "SP" means "supressive person"
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jun 2012

Kate Bornstein had an interesting interview on NPR this past weekend. I had no idea she was inner circle Scientology (like, he crewed ElRon's yacht) back in her Al days. When she underwent the sex change she was declared "Supressive" and essentially shunned. It was sad, really. She hasn't spoken to her ex wife or kids, who are still in thrall, for years.

It looks like a promotional video. Love that announcer's voice, too. Very Ed Wood.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
2. I only watched the first few minutes because the video is edited poorly.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:51 PM
Jun 2012

He is talking about helping people in a spiritual way, and he is talking about KSW (Keep Scientology Working), which is a policy he strongly supports. I don't know the details of that policy.

This video is along the same lines as something Breitbart would make. It is intentionally edited to make Cruise seem nuts.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
8. Hard to say. He uses a very different belief system than me,
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:10 PM
Jun 2012

but I am not exactly a beacon of rationality, though I try.

nolabear

(42,009 posts)
10. Oh me either. But what impressed me was the combo of extreme conviction
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jun 2012

and absolutely no content. Okay, you have the secrets and will save mankind and are incredibly elevated and, geez, show me a secret handshake or something! What do you believe? What makes you so evolved?

Actually I know a bit more about Scientology than that, and personally I thknk it's waaaaaaay out there, but there's something about this presentation that, as you said, seems like parody. But it isn't.

nolabear

(42,009 posts)
7. No, I think it's a Scientology video. It is edited like mad, I agree.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:56 PM
Jun 2012

I thought the same thing at first.

hlthe2b

(102,577 posts)
9. "Tom Cruise Scientology-Video Glossary: What Is He Talking About?" (A Guide--LOL)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jun 2012

Tom Cruise Scientology-Video Glossary: What Is He Talking About?
The actor talks for nine minutes in his instantly famous Scientology video. Can you figure out what he's actually saying? Here's a guide.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1579963/tom-cruise-scientology-video-glossary.jhtml


To me, he comes off as such a total pathological control freak--that would have me running for the doors as well

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
11. Damn, I posted this in the religion group at about the same time as you did here in Da Lounge
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:18 PM
Jun 2012

With the big divorce announcement I have a feeling we'll be hearing more of Brother Cruise in the news.

blue neen

(12,336 posts)
15. Bonkers.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jun 2012

I don't know much about Scientology, but IMHO Cruise sounds more like a Narcissist than anything else.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. "I know. I KNOW!" He knows what? Only HE can help. Only WE can create a new reality. WTF?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jun 2012

What an ego.

If he's so great at doing these wonderful things (whatever things he's talking about), bringing people into the fold, or whatever the hell he's talking about, well...he's not very good at it. He can't seem to keep even the main loves of his life in his fold.

What an ego. He thinks it's up to him to .... well, do who knows what. He never says.

Wacko. Insufferable. Egotistical.

progressoid

(50,025 posts)
18. Yeah, I remember when that first was leaked.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:12 AM
Jun 2012

The scientologists were pissed. They kept pulling from youtube. I guess they've given up trying to hide it.

There are a couple good parodies of this out there too.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
19. the latest on the divorce
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jun 2012

that have tongues wagging. All three of Tom Cruise's marriages ended when wife was 33.


benld74

(9,913 posts)
20. She filed the papers in New York. Wants sole custody of their daughter.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jun 2012

IF she wanted EVERYTHING to come out in the wash, she would have filed in California. Its all public there. SHe is taking great care to protect her daughter and herself by doing this.

nolabear

(42,009 posts)
21. And now, a message from Captain Obvious:
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:46 PM
Jun 2012


Okay, now I understand what Cruise spent a fortune on learning. Allow me to give it to you for free:

1. You can't learn to do a thing before you learn to do it.

2. A------>B

3. Get a dictionary.

Go, and conquer the world.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
27. I'm sorry to say I understood most of the Ronspeak.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:55 PM
Jun 2012

I've got a dad involved in this and a brother currently serving his billion year contract in the "sea org".

I think I know where she might have been coming from. At a certain point you just have say 'please stop. just shut off the bullshit spigot. what's the matter with you.'

I understand that I'm a "pts" now which is probably true.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
28. He's always made my skin crawl.....full blown megalomaniac.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:32 PM
Jun 2012

Katie Holmes was charmed I'm sure (if the marriage was real in the first place), but then afterawhile....she felt like a prisoner and had to get her and her daughter out. She realized she did not want her daughter growing up feeling as she does. Caged and controlled.

JohnnyLib2

(11,212 posts)
29. Reminds me of young adults who've found The Truth while exploring with drugs.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jun 2012

Certain, intense, disconnected, eager to tell others.

Some grow out of that stage....
 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
30. This is bad timing. Scientology is not the crazyass cult that I want under public scrutiny right now
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:40 PM
Jun 2012
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