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"I am a 27-year conductor with the same railroad company. This is the first time anything like this has happened to me while on a train. This happened while sitting stationary waiting for signal to continue westward. This happened during the afternoon hours on May 26th 2024. The Nebraska tornado outbreak. The tornado blew over and derailed 31 cars. The engineer and I were unharmed."
Emile
(23,184 posts)fairly calm, but I sure would have been frightened!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,255 posts)In both cases I didn't see the funnel cloud before it hit, although in one I noticed the sky looked like twister weather and hustled to my car.
Emile
(23,184 posts)but thankfully never been in one.
dweller
(23,705 posts)Cant wait
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ret5hd
(20,563 posts)Think. Again.
(8,874 posts)soldierant
(6,960 posts)the appearance of calm, that he forgot what month it was.
Fla Dem
(23,887 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,755 posts)Even a tornado is going to have a hard time moving that around.
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Martin68
(22,971 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,755 posts)floor of the cab or up in the nose.
And good afternoon.
rsdsharp
(9,237 posts)It wouldnt have any trouble with a locomotive.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,755 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:53 AM - Edit history (1)
This one was only an F1 or F2.
There's more involved than only weight. How many square feet of surface area of the building were facing the winds?
I can't guess how much a brick church weighs, but it's still going to contain a lot of empty space. With its broad outer walls, it acts like an airfoil.
Locomotives are dense, low to the ground, and don't present as much surface area as either a one- or two-story building. The cars in the train are more easily blown over, as they are lighter. Box cars and covered hoppers especially present a big flat area to oncoming winds. F2 tornado winds are something like 100 to 150 mph; I'm not sure.
A double-stack container train, with its big broad area, sticking way up higher than locomotives, would go over in a stiff breeze.
A BNSF double-stack train passing through Cajon Pass in California, with a mix of 20-foot and 40-foot containers
I'm not saying that a locomotive can't be blown over, but it's going to take some effort.
Here are drone pictures of the scene. The cars were easily derailed. I believe 31 of them went over.
By Trains Staff | April 26, 2024 | Last updated on April 27, 2024
BNSF locomotives show the effects of a storm that saw some of the trains freight cars derailed by a tornado. Sam Brodersen
WAVERLY, Neb. A BNSF train was derailed this afternoon when it was struck by a tornado between Waverly and Lincoln, Neb.. The tornado was one of a series in an outbreak across the Midwest today (Friday, April 26).
KSBN-TV reports the incident occurred about 3:25 p.m., according to a BNSF representative. There were no injuries to the crew and no hazardous materials were released.
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The overturned cars of the train struck by the tornado. Sam Brodersen
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It's like this: if there were a tornado headed right at me, and a building and a locomotive were at an equal distance from me, I'd head for the locomotive.
And good afternoon to you too.
Emile
(23,184 posts)would be a hard thing to move. I would rather been in that locomotive than a house. Still had to be frightening.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,755 posts)There are not many better places you could choose to be.
And a third good afternoon to you.
kingvitamin
(37 posts)If they couldn't move forward because they were waiting for a signal, why couldn't they put the train in reverse to get out of the way of the tornado?
ancianita
(36,228 posts)Beartracks
(12,835 posts)ancianita
(36,228 posts)catbyte
(34,544 posts)Occurred on April 26, 2024 / USA
Here's an article about it:
https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/news-photos-bnsf-train-derailed-by-tornado-in-nebraska/
News photos: BNSF train derailed by tornado in Nebraska
By Trains Staff | April 26, 2024 | Last updated on April 27, 2024
WAVERLY, Neb. A BNSF train was derailed this afternoon when it was struck by a tornado between Waverly and Lincoln, Neb.. The tornado was one of a series in an outbreak across the Midwest today (Friday, April 26).
KSBN-TV reports the incident occurred about 3:25 p.m., according to a BNSF representative. There were no injuries to the crew and no hazardous materials were released.
Waverly, on BNSFs Creston Subdivision, is about 12 miles northeast of Lincoln, Neb.
The Rural Radio Network reported a second train was also derailed, according to the Lancaster emergency manager, but that report remains unconfirmed.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,755 posts)It might pass ahead of them. It might go parallel to them. There could be a train behind them. It takes time for a train to pick up speed.
I'm certain the dispatcher told all the crews in the vicinity to stop their trains.
Good afternoon to you too.
kingvitamin
(37 posts)How likely is it that in that area there would be another train close behind them? Also, the path of the tornado seemed to be moving in a diagonal line ahead of and toward them. I agree that it would take time to get that train moving, but sitting there motionless seems like a bad decision.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,755 posts)Amtrak 5 and 6, the California Zephyrs, go through town.
https://asm.transitdocs.com/
The train was headed west, toward Lincoln. It might have been coming from Omaha, or it might have bypassed Omaha and its attendant congestion by coming straight from Plattsmouth, Nebraska, where the old Burlington route crosses the Missouri River.
Here's another YouTube clip.
The train's designation, H-KCKLIN, indicates that it was coming from Argentine Yard in Kansas City, Kansas, and terminating in Lincoln, Nebraska.
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Nebraska Trains With Matt
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WAVERLY, Neb. A BNSF train was derailed this afternoon when it was struck by a tornado between Waverly and Lincoln, Neb. The tornado was one of a series of an outbreak across the Midwest today (Friday, April 26).
KSBN-TV reports the incident occurred about 3:25 p.m., according to a BNSF representative. There were no injuries to the crew and no hazardous materials were released.
Waverly, on BNSFs Creston Subdivision, is about 12 miles northeast of Lincoln, Neb.
The Rural Radio Network reported a second train was also derailed, according to the Lancaster emergency manager, but that report remains unconfirmed.
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codfisherman
(70 posts)You definitely know your stuff. I was on an Amtrak from Seattle to Gastonia, NC years ago. I had time so I went the long way down to Sacramento and back up to Denver instead of the Empire Builder straight across. We had a train enthusiast docent along for the ride in the observation car on the leg through the Colorado River area. He was a wealth of knowledge of all things train and the local history, fascinating to listen to. Best train trip I've been on.
judesedit
(4,443 posts)catbyte
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(4,443 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,755 posts)Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:32 AM
This is an old video clip of a Tornado in Harvard, IL hitting a UP train and derailing it.
PumpkinHogger
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Happened 7Jan2008 on the Union Pacific railroad near Harvard IL. You can see the trees being whipped, hear debris hitting the trailing engine from which the video came, and then see debris flying through the air from the F3 tornado that blows some cars over. Then the rest of the train carried along by its' momentum smashes its' way along creating even more of a mess. The tank car seen in the vid, containing shock fluid, leaked for hours before it was contained.
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love_katz
(2,593 posts)Not a single thing that could be done to stop it nor prevent it.
Bayard
(22,237 posts)Stuart G
(38,458 posts)Bayard
(22,237 posts)I am astounded at the cars that just keep driving down the road in this clip.