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Beer Snob-50

(6,676 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:22 PM Feb 2012

OMG I am tired of real beer snobs

A friend of mine and I were up at a small brewery in VT, talking to a couple of others who enjoy good beers. They made the comment that they liked Sam Adams. My friend blasted them for not being true beer lovers because Sam Adams is not worthy of beer lovers anymore because they brew too much beer to be considered a craft brewery.

My god, good beer is good beer.

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OMG I am tired of real beer snobs (Original Post) Beer Snob-50 Feb 2012 OP
I don't see it as quality so much as what one likes - as a stout/porter drinker, NRaleighLiberal Feb 2012 #1
I recently drank a coffeehouse porter that had bacon added to it. Beer Snob-50 Feb 2012 #6
Rogue makes a bacon maple ale. arbusto_baboso Feb 2012 #8
did you ever try chocolate covered bacon? Beer Snob-50 Feb 2012 #10
Yup. Heaven. arbusto_baboso Feb 2012 #12
Whoa! that would be a tough stretch for me - I've also had blueberries or watermelon NRaleighLiberal Feb 2012 #16
love the coffee stouts, and the chocolate in small doses Beer Snob-50 Feb 2012 #21
I would suggest that whoever did that..... T_i_B Feb 2012 #33
Drank an entire four-pack of Sam Adams Imperial White a couple weeks ago. EastTennesseeDem Feb 2012 #25
As a beer snob zappaman Feb 2012 #2
and i would agree with you Beer Snob-50 Feb 2012 #3
Henry Weinhards is another one that kaitcat Feb 2012 #4
I admire Sam Adams because they try stuff no other large breweries would dare. arbusto_baboso Feb 2012 #5
did not care for beer with chilies in it... Beer Snob-50 Feb 2012 #7
The only Chilli beer I've ever enjoyed.... T_i_B Feb 2012 #34
I loved their chocolate Bock they made at Christmas...wish they would do it again. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2012 #17
That's one of their seasonals every Christmas. arbusto_baboso Feb 2012 #20
my non-expert opinion is that Sam Adoams rocks Enrique Feb 2012 #9
Sam adams was the first "craft beer" I tried Beer Snob-50 Feb 2012 #11
same here Enrique Feb 2012 #26
UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #13
I'm a beer snob auburngrad82 Feb 2012 #14
If you like hoppy IPAs geardaddy Feb 2012 #27
Thanks, I'll have to look for them auburngrad82 Feb 2012 #38
One word: Schlitz HopeHoops Feb 2012 #15
well, my opinion of it rhymes with it, at least! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2012 #18
You always deliver. bluedigger Feb 2012 #28
I am not a beer drinker, RebelOne Feb 2012 #19
First craft beer I tried was Summit geardaddy Feb 2012 #22
It is one thing to be a beer snob, another thing to be a beer prick. Throd Feb 2012 #23
I though their summer ale was a little off last year miyazaki Feb 2012 #24
I say "You like cheap beer? Great! I've got your next one!" bluedigger Feb 2012 #29
Maybe it's the beer talking... Major Nikon Feb 2012 #30
first brewery run by a woman... handmade34 Feb 2012 #31
After 10 or 11 they all taste the same. Swede Feb 2012 #32
A few of the "craft" beer fanboys round here like Sam Adams T_i_B Feb 2012 #35
For a widely available American brewery, they're OK muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #36
There's better American stuff widely available in the UK right now T_i_B Feb 2012 #37

NRaleighLiberal

(60,038 posts)
1. I don't see it as quality so much as what one likes - as a stout/porter drinker,
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:26 PM
Feb 2012

Sam Adams makes a really great Imperial Stout. I really don't go any lighter than porter these days (Rogue, Bells, Founders are my favorite brewers)

Beer Snob-50

(6,676 posts)
6. I recently drank a coffeehouse porter that had bacon added to it.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:34 PM
Feb 2012

not bad, not something i would make a habit of, but still.....

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
8. Rogue makes a bacon maple ale.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:36 PM
Feb 2012

But it's just maple and smoke on the palate, unfortunately.

Besides being a beer geek, I also adore bacon. I'd eat my own HEAD if it tasted like bacon...

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
12. Yup. Heaven.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:42 PM
Feb 2012

There's also a commercially available chocolate bar with bacon bits in it. Mo's is the company, I think.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,038 posts)
16. Whoa! that would be a tough stretch for me - I've also had blueberries or watermelon
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:07 PM
Feb 2012

floating in some craft beers.

I do love the chocolate or coffee stouts, perhaps best of all!

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
33. I would suggest that whoever did that.....
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:17 AM
Feb 2012

...read up on German Rauchbier, then try using smoked malt instead of bacon.

I do enjoy a Rauchbier every now and then, but not too often as I do find it a bit wierd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoked_beer

EastTennesseeDem

(2,675 posts)
25. Drank an entire four-pack of Sam Adams Imperial White a couple weeks ago.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:52 PM
Feb 2012

God, I was knocked clean on my ass.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
2. As a beer snob
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:29 PM
Feb 2012

I think Sam Adams makes a couple of beers that are fine.
Miller, Coors, or Bud, on the other hand, are all awful.

Beer Snob-50

(6,676 posts)
3. and i would agree with you
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:31 PM
Feb 2012

but just because sam adams now makes large qtys of beer does not make them bad. the others you listed are pure caca in my opinion.

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
5. I admire Sam Adams because they try stuff no other large breweries would dare.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:32 PM
Feb 2012

Tell me the last time the Bud/Miller/Coors Axis of Evil ever released a doppelbock with cocoa and ancho chiles?

Some times Sammy misses and sometimes they hit it out of the park. But at least they don't try to get the whole country to drink watered-down shit beer that never changes.

For that alone they deserve credit.

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
34. The only Chilli beer I've ever enjoyed....
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:21 AM
Feb 2012

is Mikkeler Texas Ranger. Trouble is that being Mikkeler it's quite expensive.

Pepper is another odd ingredient in beer. A brewery near me does a pepper stout. It's a beer that's brilliant in food but I'm not so sure about it when it's in a pint glass.

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
20. That's one of their seasonals every Christmas.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:10 PM
Feb 2012

They also do a Cherry Choclate Bock that is dessert in a glass.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. my non-expert opinion is that Sam Adoams rocks
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:39 PM
Feb 2012

I came of age in Wisconsin, and I have sampled beers from countless "good" brewers, and I will testify under oath that when I first tasted Samuel Adams "Boston Lager", in NYC, in the apartmet of none other than Larry Storch, I thought to myself, "this is really good beer".

Beer Snob-50

(6,676 posts)
11. Sam adams was the first "craft beer" I tried
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:42 PM
Feb 2012

and it opened my eyes to realize that beer did not have to have such a bland taste.

Never drank it with Larry Storch but still....

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
26. same here
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:04 PM
Feb 2012

I lived in WI for 10 years, triied contless craft beers, the only ones that stoood ot for me were Sam Adams which isn't really a craft beer , and Schprecerr Amber which probably is a craft beer.

auburngrad82

(5,029 posts)
14. I'm a beer snob
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 04:47 PM
Feb 2012

I love very hoppy IPAs, the kinds of beer that the mass producers won't make because most people like the bland yellow stuff.

That being said, Sam Adams is my go to when I have to go with a big brewer. It's actually quite good.

geardaddy

(24,933 posts)
27. If you like hoppy IPAs
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 06:07 PM
Feb 2012

you should try to get your hands on this:

Furious
A tempest on the tongue, or a moment of pure hop bliss? Brewed with a dazzling blend of American hops and Scottish malt, this crimson-hued ale delivers waves of citrus, pine and caramel-toffee. For those who favor flavor, Furious has the hop-fire your taste buds have been screeching for.

STYLE: American India Pale Ale
MALT: Pale Ale, Golden Promise, Aromatic, Medium Crystal, Roasted Barley
HOPS: Warrior, Ahtanum, Simcoe, Amarillo
YEAST: English Ale

OG: 15º Plato
ABV: 6.5% v/v
COLOR: 27 ºSRM
IBU: 99
AVAILABILITY: Cans and Kegs Year Round

or this:

Wet
4,800 lbs of hops picked fresh in Washington and shipped to Minnesota immediately. We brewed this beer three days later. This is a hop-forward beer, dry with subdued malt flavors.

STYLE: West Coast India Pale Ale
MALT: 2-Row, Crystal Crystal
WET HOPS: Citra, Simcoe
BITTERING HOPS: Columbus
YEAST: English Ale

OG: 17º Plato
ABV: 7.5% v/v
COLOR: 6 ºSRM
IBU: 90
AVAILABILITY: October

http://www.surlybrewing.com/beer/year-round-beers.html

auburngrad82

(5,029 posts)
38. Thanks, I'll have to look for them
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:26 PM
Feb 2012

We've got an awesome little beer store in Raleigh, Tasty Beverage Company, and they may carry them.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
19. I am not a beer drinker,
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:10 PM
Feb 2012

but when I do drink it, Guinness Stout is the way to go. I went to Ireland just to sit in a pub and drink Guinness on the tap.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
23. It is one thing to be a beer snob, another thing to be a beer prick.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:23 PM
Feb 2012

I love beer in all of its forms, some just more than others.

Drink what you like. If you like Coors Light, then by all means drink it. Why should I care?

I'm always looking for new imports and domestic craft brews, but I still love a big, cold can of Olde English 800.

miyazaki

(2,262 posts)
24. I though their summer ale was a little off last year
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:48 PM
Feb 2012

didn't seem as flavorful or something. maybe my taste buds changed.

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
35. A few of the "craft" beer fanboys round here like Sam Adams
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:28 AM
Feb 2012

Personally I've only tried their Boston Lager, and I wasn't too fussed by it.

I'm waiting for Odell "Pond Hopper" to get released over here as it's being brewed in collaboration with Thornbridge, who are a very reputable brewery local to me. You may even had Jaipur or Kipling from Thornbridge in the States

Although the owner of Thornbridge has had some unwelcome publicity of late http://www.democraticunderground.com/1088411

muriel_volestrangler

(101,415 posts)
36. For a widely available American brewery, they're OK
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:38 AM
Feb 2012

Yes, I don't think Boston Lager was special, but they have a wide range, including ales, stouts and so on.

In the 90s, I saw a American bar-restaurant divide its beers into 'domestic' - the mass-produced American pap - and 'imported' - actual imports, plus Sam Adams, presumably because it had an actual flavour.

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
37. There's better American stuff widely available in the UK right now
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:49 AM
Feb 2012

You can get Brooklyn Lager, Goose Island IPA and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale in supermarkets nowadays for instance, and lots of other imported beery exotica from the States in many pubs and off-licences near where I live.

Oh, and Odell have also done a collaboration beer (a smoked porter) with Darkstar in the past, which I think is reasonably local to you.

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