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GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,585 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:36 AM Jun 2015

Amtrak riders?

I have never taken an Amtrak train and I'm planning on going to NYC

I want to hop on the Capitol Limited from Chicago in northern Ohio then transfer in Pittsburgh to the Pennsylvanian to NYC.

I'd be waiting at an unmanned station at 1:00am for the Capitol Limited.

Do trains wait for connecting trains? For example, would the Pennsylvanian wait for the Capitol Limited in Pittsburgh before departing for NYC?

Any tips, info, etc. would be appreciated.

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Amtrak riders? (Original Post) GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2015 OP
Have never had a connection using Amtrak, however GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #1
I doubt that you would be the ony person detraining and waiting, but.... angstlessk Jun 2015 #2
Self protection? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #4
I absolutely LOVE trains angstlessk Jun 2015 #5
I love trains take them from Florida to Pennsylvania but classykaren Jun 2015 #7
I was thinking more like pepper spray KamaAina Jun 2015 #9
Pepper spray might help ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #11
I believe the 1 AM unmanned station thing is at the Ohio end KamaAina Jun 2015 #12
What? No Restaurant Car? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #13
Oh, there's a cafe car on the train KamaAina Jun 2015 #14
You should be fine....... mrmpa Jun 2015 #3
No, It Will RobinA Jun 2015 #6
Elyria station, right? jmowreader Jun 2015 #8
The Lake Shore Limited serves forur of the five Ohio stations the Capitol Limited does KamaAina Jun 2015 #10
I Took the Lake Shore Ltd RobinA Jun 2015 #16
Yes, Elyria. GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2015 #15
Going straight to NYC doesn't make sense? KamaAina Jun 2015 #17
At first, I thought I had to go to Boston and then NYC GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2015 #19
It splits at Albany KamaAina Jun 2015 #20
I rode that line a few years ago NJCher Jun 2015 #18
I took this route quite a few years back & LOVED it irisblue Jun 2015 #21
Thanks for your input. Here's how my trip went. GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2015 #22
Glad you had a good time on your train ride. mnhtnbb Jul 2015 #23
My cab was $70 round trip GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2015 #25
Glad you had a good trip, elleng Jul 2015 #24
Went to Bellmore GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2015 #26
Good. Grew up in RVC, elleng Jul 2015 #27
I'll be on my first Amtrak ride next week from DFW to Hannibal, MO. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #28
I am a verteran of many cross country AMTRAK trips ghostsinthemachine Jul 2015 #29

GoneOffShore

(17,346 posts)
1. Have never had a connection using Amtrak, however
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:42 AM
Jun 2015

I doubt that Amtrak trains would wait for another train before departure. Their on-time record off of the Northeast Corridor is pretty bad.

The Amtrak website is pretty good at tracking trains plus they have an app for smartphones. They will text you if your train is going to be late, if you sign up for alerts.

http://www.amtrak.com/home

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
2. I doubt that you would be the ony person detraining and waiting, but....
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jun 2015

taking the train also allows you to take along self protection

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,387 posts)
4. Self protection?
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jun 2015

Condoms, yes.

Guns, no.

Not in NYC.

Anyway, this, like most train rides, will be safe, peaceful, and scenic.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
5. I absolutely LOVE trains
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jun 2015

One thing I missed is sleepers...I hope to one day take one...even if it is a round trip!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,387 posts)
11. Pepper spray might help ...
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jun 2015

... the salads in the restaurant car can be pretty bland.

But, dunno the NYC laws on pepper spray, might have to check before arrival.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,387 posts)
13. What? No Restaurant Car?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:17 PM
Jun 2015

Please tell me there's a Bar Car!

The last time I took a long-distance train was 1966, New Orleans to New York, and the cabin had bunks.

Things may have changed since then.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. Oh, there's a cafe car on the train
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jun 2015

even the short runs from San Jose to Sacramento (about three hours).

But the trains pass through Ohio after midnight, so most of the stations are unstaffed.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
3. You should be fine.......
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 11:01 AM
Jun 2015

I've ridden from Chicago to Pittsburgh. It gets in early enough for the Departure to Philadelphia. Also I believe you will have a 4 hour layover in Phillie until the train arrives for the trip to NYC.

The unmanned station in Pittsburgh is okay. Across the street is the Greyhound station. Also the station is on the street level of the old Pennsylvania Station, which now houses apartments.

While waiting call an Uber or Lyft for a trip (If you have tine) to Primanti Brothers (open 24 hours) in the Strip District and get some good food. Then return to the station via Lyft or Uber. I f you don't have time to eat at Primantis get it to go (have the Uber or Lyft) wait for you & return you to the train station.

RobinA

(9,916 posts)
6. No, It Will
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jun 2015

probably not wait if you are significantly late. However, Amtrak will get you where you are going if you miss a connection and it is their fault. I would have somebody with me at 1:00a in an unmanned station.

jmowreader

(50,603 posts)
8. Elyria station, right?
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 03:43 PM
Jun 2015

Unless you have some special reason for going to Pittsburgh, the Lake Shore Limited also goes through Elyria (at 4:51 am) and it ends at Penn Station in NYC - exactly where you want to go.

The alternative is to go all the way to Union Station in Washington then take the Northeast Regional (which leaves many times a day) to Penn Station.

Either way eliminates connecting-train worries.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. The Lake Shore Limited serves forur of the five Ohio stations the Capitol Limited does
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jun 2015

Alliance is the exception, but the 1:00 timing would seem to indicate Sandusky or Elyria.

RobinA

(9,916 posts)
16. I Took the Lake Shore Ltd
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jun 2015

Once and loved it. I was going west bound for a connection in Toledo to go to Detriot. The word "late" doesn't begin the describe the hours behind that we were, but they put us on a train and took us to Detriot anyway. Coming back, very spectacular down the Hudson.

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,585 posts)
15. Yes, Elyria.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:55 PM
Jun 2015

It's the closest to me and I don't have transportation except by taxi.

I thought making a connection in Pitts would be the shortest in distance and time, but going to DC does make sense.

Thanks for the tip.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. Going straight to NYC doesn't make sense?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:43 PM
Jun 2015

They're all overnight trains. You will reach NYC the following morning or midday in any event.

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,585 posts)
19. At first, I thought I had to go to Boston and then NYC
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jun 2015

But I see now it goes through Albany and not to Boston.

Also, I can get on at Elyria at around 5am instead of 1am so the sun would be up soon.

It arrives in NYC about 6pm so if on time it's only about a 12hr trip.

Thanks for making me rethink the Lake Shore Limited.

NJCher

(35,843 posts)
18. I rode that line a few years ago
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jun 2015

I have a recommendation: buy their food! It's actually good and quite reasonably priced. I was so paranoid about getting healthy, good food, that I packed all this stuff. Not necessary. I wish I'd not bothered and just purchased on the train and at the various stops.

People sleep the whole time. You'll have a quiet, nice trip.


Cher

irisblue

(33,067 posts)
21. I took this route quite a few years back & LOVED it
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jun 2015

I brought a shawl, the train was a bit cool, a small u shaped pillow and books on tape. The Hudson River Valley was freaking amazing. I was very surprised how many well hidden tent cities we passed.

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,585 posts)
22. Thanks for your input. Here's how my trip went.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 03:15 PM
Jul 2015

I took the North Shore Limited (48) from Elyria OH to NYC Penn station.

The Elyria station has been improved and is well lit and has a shelter.
There were fellow riders there and people waiting for the train (49) to arrive.

The train was 20 mins late.

The seats were comfortable and lots of leg room. The stop in Syracuse was a smoke break.

Albany was a smoke break, too. A lot of people got off here to go on to MA.
Everything was going great until there was a fire under the engine near Hudson. They said some leaves and brush got stuck in the wheels and caught fire. We hobbled into Hudson and the fire dept put the fire out. So we arrived in NYC about an hour and half late. The scenery going down the Hudson river was, well... scenic.
Got on the LIRR and out to Long Island to my friend's.

On the return trip the fire this time was in the Albany train station. Not much of one but they closed the station so no one could board. Got into Elyria about an hour and a half late.

All in all, it was a good experience. The food was pricey but I just needed some water and soda. A can of beer was $6.50.

The fare was $220.00 round trip senior discount fare. It was a bargain.

Thanks to you all who posted your experience and info.



mnhtnbb

(31,428 posts)
23. Glad you had a good time on your train ride.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jul 2015

I've ridden Amtrak several times from here in NC to DC and once
to/from NY--but that's a long ride when flying time is only an hour.

You can't beat the price--especially with a senior discount--and just last
Saturday we rode Amtrak from Charlotte to Durham when coming home
from a trip where we flew in to Charlotte returning from an out of the country trip. US Air wanted $346/person to
fly us--a 20 minute flight--from Charlotte to Durham. We paid $46. TOTAL--with senior discount--
for both of us to ride the train from Charlotte to Durham and then $25 cab
from Durham home (and a $28 cab fare from Charlotte airport to Charlotte Amtrak
station).

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,585 posts)
25. My cab was $70 round trip
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jul 2015

That was for a 50 mile round trip. The guy services Oberlin College students to and from Cleveland airport and Amtrak. He monitored the train and was waiting for me when I got back.
Pretty good for small town service.

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,585 posts)
26. Went to Bellmore
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jul 2015

After living in DC area and now living in the sticks it was nice to be back in civilization.

elleng

(131,457 posts)
27. Good. Grew up in RVC,
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jul 2015

lived in DC, now in DC 'area' pretty much sticks most of the time, but still lots of civilization nearby. Will prolly take Amtrak to Philly next month to visit family.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. I'll be on my first Amtrak ride next week from DFW to Hannibal, MO.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:42 PM
Jul 2015

I'll be on my first Amtrak ride next week from DFW to Hannibal, MO. In fact, it will be my first train ride, so I'm more excited about it than I should be.

And that is the extent of my Amtrak knowledge.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
29. I am a verteran of many cross country AMTRAK trips
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 03:46 PM
Jul 2015

and it is the only way to go if you got the time. This advice might not be for the OP so much but for others it will help. Also not all that aporopo on commuter routes but there is always a train that is on that route that is not a commuter train but an AMTRAK distance train.....

The sleepers are nice, BUT, the view sucks and most people do not choose to experience other passengers when in the sleepers, they pretty much stay put. Food is included with the price of the sleepers though and that is three pretty nice meals a day...........

If you are NOT getting a sleeping car use these tips.....

You can take anything you want on the train. I take an high profile ice chest, full of beers, snacks, lunch stuff....., a large suitcase and check a bag or two of stuff I don't need to see until my destination. (the baggage guidelines are seldom obeyed on AMTRAK).


Bring a higher ice chest than usual, fill it with snacks and food (beer too). the higher profile will help in the seats because the foot part sags and does not lay flat and you prop them up with the chest and, if you have two seats, can be a comfy spot to sleep.....

Be sure to ask that you not have a seat mate if possible, then you get two seats to use. Much better to sleep in with the legs not sagging and two seat space..... If you are traveling as a couple, ask that you not sit together but across the aisle so you can both have two seats. On most routes this is possible, on others not so much.

Bring a DVD player and an MP3 player, headphones and some bluetooth speakers. A laptop or tablet, but some routes there is not internet or phone service available. bring some Books too.

Bring (In your carry-on bag) two blankets. One for keeping warm and one for this trick explained below. They also provide pillows and thin blankets to use as well but for some things they aren't all that good, they keep the trains colder than most of us like....

Use the viewing car to meet people and sleep in. In the viewing cars is a few couch like things with three seats but one is turned at an angle. very uncomfortable, but if you fill in the space with the thick blanket where the one seat turns at an angle it is actually very nice to sleep on.

Use the darker, heavier blanket to stop the glare when taking photos as you travel too. (Some blue painters tape works to hold them on the bulkhead but be discreet there....)

Be sure to tell the porter(?) your destination so they will not wake you up at every stop and will let you sleep. They don't care if you are sleeping but they have to see that you get off the train at the right stop..

The food is great, and reasonably priced. The steaks are really good (Kansas City aged) and I usually opt for dinner (around 15 dollars last I was on).... There is a snack car too with all kinds of stuff at reasonable prices.

Most of the listed stops are short, not long enough to visit or even smoke a ciggie. Most stops though are right downtown, so cabs or transit are seldom needed to get to the places you want to visit.

If you smoke pot, DO NOT DO IT ON THE TRAIN. Or in the station. Federal thing. Only a few stops allow the time to go far enough off the property to be safe. take some edibles. or go without.

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