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Archae

(46,379 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 01:31 PM Jun 2015

Eddie Van Halen proves he's a total asshole...

Ye gawds...

Smoker Eddie Van Halen Blames His Tongue Cancer on Guitar Picks & Electromagnetic Energy

June 24, 2015 by Hemant Mehta 111 Comments

We often hear religious people go to absurd lengths to explain things that have perfectly natural explanations. (What caused that tornado? Gay people, not weather patterns.)

So when a rock star does something similar, might as well call him out on it.

Eddie Van Halen, who appears on the cover of the latest Billboard magazine, has a very odd explanation for losing “one-third of his tongue to a cancer that eventually drifted into his esophagus”:

“I used metal picks — they’re brass and copper — which I always held in my mouth, in the exact place where I got the tongue cancer,” he says. “Plus, I basically live in a recording studio that’s filled with electromagnetic energy. So that’s one theory… But at the same time, my lungs are totally clear. This is just my own theory, but the doctors say it’s possible.”

So metal picks and electromagnetic energy caused his tongue cancer? That’s… makes no scientific sense.

I used ellipses in that passage. So let me quote the full thing this time:

“I used metal picks — they’re brass and copper — which I always held in my mouth, in the exact place where I got the tongue cancer,” he says. “Plus, I basically live in a recording studio that’s filled with electromagnetic energy. So that’s one theory. I mean, I was smoking and doing a lot of drugs and a lot of everything. But at the same time, my lungs are totally clear. This is just my own theory, but the doctors say it’s possible.”

He smoked for four decades… but blames the tongue cancer on guitar picks… and electromagnetic energy that I guess targets the inside of his mouth (and no one else’s).

That makes as much sense as jumping off your roof and then blaming your broken leg on eating too many carbs.

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Eddie Van Halen proves he's a total asshole... (Original Post) Archae Jun 2015 OP
I've heard that "My lungs are totally clear" line from several long-time smokers. Tobin S. Jun 2015 #1
A doctor said that to my mother in the early 90s Orrex Jul 2015 #27
One for Eddie ... seveneyes Jun 2015 #2
I made the mistake of reading his entire Billboard interview. Miles Archer Jun 2015 #3
Sammy has an interesting chapter about Eddie in his autobiography. Frank Cannon Jun 2015 #4
I read the whole book Miles Archer Jun 2015 #5
I don't undersand Eddie's motive on that Ahpook Jun 2015 #17
Who the fuck uses metal picks? Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #6
Only one I know are some banjo guys that use GOLGO 13 Jun 2015 #7
That struck me as odd as well. I've been playing 30+ years and have never seen anyone use them. Throd Jun 2015 #8
Yep - weird.... nt. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #9
Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top uses a PESO. Miles Archer Jun 2015 #11
Brian May uses a coin :) Ahpook Jun 2015 #16
Brian May used a coin as a pick, IIRC. hifiguy Jun 2015 #20
I experimented with them years ago, but they weren't my thing. arcane1 Jun 2015 #26
So I guess there's no way he's joining KISS KamaAina Jun 2015 #10
I love what you said. Not 100% sure I understand it but I love it just as it is. Miles Archer Jun 2015 #12
Here's Gene Simmons KamaAina Jun 2015 #13
I know, but here's how I took it Miles Archer Jun 2015 #14
Heavy drinking is every bit as much a cause for oral/throat cancer as smoking cemaphonic Jun 2015 #15
Reminds me of a friend with Hep C TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #18
Tongue cancer killed my brother 12 years ago..... Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2015 #19
Never liked him beyond playing, PRB Jun 2015 #21
Roth was a clown. Archae Jun 2015 #22
I always thought that is what PRB Jun 2015 #23
Well, based on Eddie Van Halen's own antics, it's pretty obvious he's the asshole here. Archae Jun 2015 #24
Well, I never heard the guy speak PRB Jun 2015 #25
Archae, copper is a heavy metal that can cause cancer. Nitram Jul 2015 #28
From everything I'e ever read, seen or heard about EVH OriginalGeek Jul 2015 #29
you should think about getting out more Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #30

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
1. I've heard that "My lungs are totally clear" line from several long-time smokers.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jun 2015

They usually say that after they've had a chest x-ray for some reason and the technician tells them something like that. I think they misunderstand something somewhere along the line or have selective hearing. What was probably meant was that they have no tumors. You can have chronic bronchitis or emphysema and still have clear lungs in that regard.

I most recently heard the "they said my lungs are totally clear" line from a friend of mine who smokes an eighth of an ounce of weed a day when he can afford it, and has smoked a pack of day of Marlboro reds for thirty years. He hacks up black shit in the mornings, but, yeah, his lungs are totally clear. People will go to great lengths to rationalize their addictions.

Orrex

(63,298 posts)
27. A doctor said that to my mother in the early 90s
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:05 AM
Jul 2015

She'd been a pack-a-day smoker for decades by that time, and she took the doctor's statement as a guarantee of her own indestructibility, i.e., "smoke as much as you want--you're fine."

In retrospect, it was probably the most damaging thing anyone said to her in her adult life.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
3. I made the mistake of reading his entire Billboard interview.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jun 2015

I posted the slams he made against Michael Anthony, but clicked through to read the whole interview and read the things about the metal picks.

If you haven't seen Sammy's response video, in which he looks straight into the camera and tells Eddie "you're a liar, fuck you," it's "must see tv."





Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
4. Sammy has an interesting chapter about Eddie in his autobiography.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 12:12 AM
Jun 2015

Some crazy stuff that demonstrates that EVH completely lost his mind a long time ago. I think it was excerpted in Rolling Stone, if you want to Google it.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
5. I read the whole book
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:50 AM
Jun 2015

Pretty disturbing stuff, to say the least. And if you go to YouTube and search for "Van Halen 2004" and watch any random selection of clips, there is no reason to suspect that Sammy was telling anything but the truth.

He may have cleaned up his act when it comes to his alcoholism and other substance-related demons, but he is still a mean, mean son of a bitch.

Ahpook

(2,751 posts)
17. I don't undersand Eddie's motive on that
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:17 PM
Jun 2015

Maybe to promote his sons career? Didn't they replace the picture of Michael Anthony on VH 1 with Eddie's son for a brief period?

Never have understood why Eddie would hurt his band and their legacy like that. Anthony was integral to the sound they had back then

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
6. Who the fuck uses metal picks?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:32 AM
Jun 2015

I mean, I ain't one to be definitive but I know of no one that uses metal picks -let alone exclusively. Brass picks? What in the hell is he on about? I don't know anyone, and I know a lot of guitar players, but I don't know any that play with copper picks... he is full of shit.

I do know finger pickers that play with metal picks but they are are mainly made of nickel.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
7. Only one I know are some banjo guys that use
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:58 AM
Jun 2015

a claw hammer kind of pickin. Looks like little claws at the end of their fingers. They don't put such things in their mouths though.

Now we're getting a more clearer picture as to why Valerie left him.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
11. Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top uses a PESO.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jun 2015

That little harmonic squeal he gets is the result of his thumb and a Peso for a pick.



Ahpook

(2,751 posts)
16. Brian May uses a coin :)
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:04 PM
Jun 2015

Its what you get used to? I still use a penny comfortably. We didn't have any music stores close by when I started playing so had to make do.

I did start making plectrums from plastic coffee can lids though

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. I experimented with them years ago, but they weren't my thing.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:45 PM
Jun 2015

They'll wear your strings out FAST! That's OK if you're a rock star, but not when you're on a budget

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
12. I love what you said. Not 100% sure I understand it but I love it just as it is.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:06 PM
Jun 2015

That could mean a lot of different things. All of them are hoo-LARIOUS.



Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
14. I know, but here's how I took it
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jun 2015

"Eddie Van Halen is an asshole"

"I guess he won't be joining KISS"

Being an asshole is pretty much a prerequisite to joining KISS, isn't it?

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
15. Heavy drinking is every bit as much a cause for oral/throat cancer as smoking
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jun 2015

I still remember all the drama when Roth left the band in the 80s. Hard to believe that he's turned out to be the relatively mature and level-headed one of that pair.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,257 posts)
18. Reminds me of a friend with Hep C
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 08:39 PM
Jun 2015

She used IV drugs back in the day, but swears she got the Hep C from a pedicure.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
19. Tongue cancer killed my brother 12 years ago.....
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:56 PM
Jun 2015

at age 63 after 40+ years of heavy smoking and drinking. My wife contracted it without being in any of the risk groups but she's alive and now cancer free thanks to a fantastic team of doctors and tremendous progress in treatment over the last 12 years.

I don't know if Eddie is an asshole but he sure isn't too bright. I wish him well as it is a terrible disease and after seeing what the two most important people in my life went through, wouldn't wish it on anybody. Asshole or not.

 

PRB

(139 posts)
23. I always thought that is what
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:09 PM
Jun 2015

caused the rift between he and Eddie Van Halen. Seems Eddie wanted to be more serious with good guitar playing, and Roth wanted to ham it up. Even with the studio music. I could be wrong about that though. Also, seems you have to somewhat appeal to the lowest common denominator to sell A LOT of records. Maybe Roth was more business and Eddie more artistic?

Archae

(46,379 posts)
24. Well, based on Eddie Van Halen's own antics, it's pretty obvious he's the asshole here.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jun 2015

Blames woo for his cancer, throws tantrums about Roth doing his shtick.

 

PRB

(139 posts)
25. Well, I never heard the guy speak
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

back then. Maybe he went along with Roth because the money was rolling in. Maybe he got bitter because he fancied himself a serious musician. Not saying that is the case, but just my impression. Not an excuse, but just a reason.

Roth, on the other hand, continued to ham it up. He recently had some dumb talk radio show and continues something similar.

I saw Van Halen and never really saw anything special. Eddie Van Halen made that band with some actual talent and Roth should be indebted to him. Eddie might be a present day jerk, but I don't think Roth would recognize talent if it bit him in the ass.

Nitram

(22,986 posts)
28. Archae, copper is a heavy metal that can cause cancer.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:26 PM
Jul 2015

It is not totally far-fetched. The EM theory, not so much. but the fact that it's on his tongue lends the theory credence.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
29. From everything I'e ever read, seen or heard about EVH
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:38 PM
Jul 2015

blaming his cancer on metal picks is the very least in a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong line of things that demonstrate what an asshole he is.

And I'm not even counting the ire I feel towards him for defiling my precious Valerie. That's a hole 'nother kettle of hatred. (I reckon I can't count that because she wasn/t, isn't, won't be "my" precious Valerie. I doubt she would have been interested in me when I was a googley eyed teenage boy and I doubt she'd be interested now. But that doesn't stop me from adoring her. GOt some hate for the motorcycle guy, Jesse James, for much the same reasons.)

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