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This is simply stunning. The boys are at their best. The recording is pretty high quality too.
1. Love The One Youre With (Csny 1974)
2. Wooden Ships (Csny 1974)
3. Immigration Man (Csny 1974)
4. Helpless (Csny 1974)
5. Carry Me (Csny 1974)
6. Johnnys Garden (Csny 1974)
7. Traces (Csny 1974)
8. Grave Concern (Csny 1974)
9. On The Beach (Csny 1974)
10. Black Queen (Csny 1974)
11. Almost Cut My Hair (Csny 1974)
( CD 2 )
1. Change Partners (Csny 1974)
2. The Lee Shore (Csny 1974)
3. Only Love Can Break Your Heart (Csny 1974)
4. Our House (Csny 1974)
5. Fieldworker (Csny 1974)
6. Guinevere (Csny 1974)
7. Time After Time (Csny 1974)
8. Prison Song (Csny 1974)
9. Long May You Run (Csny 1974)
10. Goodbye Dick (Csny 1974)
11. Mellow My Mind (Csny 1974)
12. Old Man (Csny 1974)
13. Word Game (Csny 1974)
14. Myth Of Sisyphus (Csny 1974)
15. Blackbird (Csny 1974)
16. Love Art Blues (Csny 1974)
17. Hawaiian Sunrise (Csny 1974)
18. Teach Your Children (Csny 1974)
19. Suite: Judy Blue Eyes (Csny 1974)
( CD 3 )
1. Deja Vu (Csny 1974)
2. My Angel (Csny 1974)
3. Pre-Road Downs (Csny 1974)
4. Dont Be Denied (Csny 1974)
5. Revolution Blues (Csny 1974)
6. Military Madness (Csny 1974)
7. Long Time Gone (Csny 1974)
8. Pushed It Over The End (Csny 1974)
9. Chicago (Csny 1974)
10. Ohio (Csny 1974)
calikid
(584 posts)I saw them several times in the 70's, the biggest venue was the Oakland Coliseum. Thanks for posting.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...Neil, traveling on his own tour bus, separately from the others. MOUNTAINS of coke. And four guys who had never played stadiums, playing stadiums where they can't hear themselves sing, so between the drugs and the monitors...
Graham Nash has become the self-appointed archivist for all things CSNY, and supposedly plowed through MANY hours of tape to come up with an acceptable product in the CSNY 1974 box set. On some performances he "punched in" a segment from a different performance because something went wrong...someone hit a bad note, etc. This is common practice...if you want to believe legendary producer / engineeer Eddie Kramer, the ONLY "live" part of KISS' legendary "Alive!" album is Peter Criss' drums.
I have a 2 CD bootleg in my collection somewhere of an unedited show from this tour. The official 1974 box set sounds a hell of a lot better because Nash scrubbed the daylights out of the tracks. I also used to own a 2-LP vinyl album from the tour, so not counting the box set, I've heard two REAL, full concerts.
That said, my overalll impression of the tour...from the band members' own recollections to what I have heard with my own ears...is that when they were good, they were great, and when they weren't, they were unlistenable. They really did hit an assload of bad notes.
Favorites from the box are "Deja Vu"...just sublime...and "Ohio," even more snarling and nasty than the "4 Way Street" version.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)scrubbed version. The guys have such fresh young voices. Steven is sharp on the guitar. I especially liked the Neil stuff on disc three and Neil's contributions in general. Some of these tunes are new to me, which is like finding treasure.
I guess my point is, I just love this music, modified or not.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)in a large, outside venue. You literally cannot hear yourself, much less the other 2 or 3 vocalists. You're guessing the entire time. Harmony has to be tight, and I mean dead on or it falls apart. I don't know if I would blame it on the drugs or incompetency or whatever, as I think that is highly inaccurate. You can have the greatest vocalists in the world and put them in an outside venue and they can fall apart.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...they blamed it on the drugs. Nash tells the story of one time when some coke landed on the carpet and they were down on their hands and knees, snorting it out of the fibers.
The "fan demand" for the 1974 show has been intense for decades, maybe as intense as the demand for Neil to release "Time Fades Away" on CD (he finally did, last year).
But if you read virtually any interview any band member gave since 1974, they are all consistent...they blame it on drugs, coupled with their inability to hear themselves in the stadium monitors. I wouldn't call them incompetent, either, and I didn't. They were high off their asses and out of their normal comfort zone. They've said it over and over and over again and I agree with them.
They've never been shy about making money, and another thing they all agree on is that between drugs and "management," a few truckloads of money drove out through the back door of that 1974 tour. This is all a matter of public record, the interviews are plentiful, I'm not making any of this up and it's not my opinion, it's me agreeing with what all four of them have said.
Common sense dictates that a live document of the tour would help them make some of the money back. And the reason why it took 40 years is that scrubbing those tapes was one hell of a lot of work. As he was putting this together, Nash talked about a show in England that a lot of fans wanted to relive. He vetoed it because the tapes sounded like shit and were beyond rescue.
So I respect your decision to not blame it on the drugs, but please realize that Stephen Stills, David Crosby, Graham Nash, and Neil Young all did. Part of the reason Neil stayed on his own bus is that he's wired that way anyway, but also he wanted no part of the off-the-hook excesses being enjoyed by his three bandmates...and that's coming from a guy who fueled the "Tonight's The Night" sessions with copious amounts of weed, hash, and tequila....get drunk and high all day, go into the studio at night...that's how he got that "on the edge of death" sound he wanted. It's all in his "authorized bio," "Shakey." So if they were too high for Neil, how high do you think they might have been? As high as they've said they were for the last 40 years.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)how difficult it is to perform outside and be accurate and particularly, harmonizing which requires you be able to hear yourself and, more importantly, hearing the other vocalists. I've sung in outside venues. I've sung while performing in vocal jazz ensembles where you're doing 6 and 7 part harmonies with a lot of 2nds thrown in there. One person gets the least bit off and it all falls apart.
Number9Dream
(1,565 posts)We saw them on August 8, 1974, Roosevelt Stadium, Jersey City, NJ. CSNY were onstage when, at 9 pm, President Nixon was scheduled to appear on television to tender his resignation. Graham Nash's announcement of the fact a few minutes early, followed immediately by Crosby's "Long Time Gone", left the crowd in no mood to listen to their quieter music, and the acoustic set was abandoned after just two songs." They then continued on with a set of electric music.
That's basically how I remember it (though I'm sure we were quite buzzed).
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)astral
(2,531 posts)Doggone it! I just hit the reply button while streaming and guess what the concert stopped.
I never buy music anymore. I just bought this $40 cd set from Amazon. I dont even know where my cd player is.
Here we go ... Of course i saw so much more great music while i was viewing i had to hurry up and get out of there. There is a treasure trove of music and it is hard to pick what great new-old stuff to try first.
Now to go hear the rest of the last disc of the show. . . Least i can sing along with nobody else listening ; )