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New Sigma DP camera. (Original Post) alfredo Feb 2014 OP
Am I the only one in the world Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #1
You aren't the only one. Adsos Letter Feb 2014 #2
Do you find it harder and harder to find a camera, Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #3
I haven't shopped for one in a couple of years. Adsos Letter Feb 2014 #4
I like the tilting EVF like you can get for Olympus, or the one on the Panny GX7 alfredo Feb 2014 #14
You can buy a viewfinder for it alfredo Feb 2014 #11
Same here, even if it's an EVF... regnaD kciN Feb 2014 #22
I use the viewfinder all of the time. n/t ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #6
YOU ARE NOT the only one. I would not even consider a camera without one. Mira Feb 2014 #7
I am feeling better. Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #8
Here's how I do it. Mira Feb 2014 #9
I may have it figured out. Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #10
I do not like cameras that don't have viewfinders. Blue_In_AK Feb 2014 #16
LOL, that might be part of it. Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #21
I used to care arikara Feb 2014 #18
The whole point of SLR is that you have a viewfinder that looks through the lens Major Nikon Feb 2014 #24
Sleek design! Adsos Letter Feb 2014 #5
That's a big consideration for me. alfredo Feb 2014 #12
The Sigma lenses are very light. I have a 19mm and the 30mm. alfredo Feb 2014 #13
I like Sigma Stevenmarc Feb 2014 #15
Here's the full specs. I like quirky too, but I'm a tightwad, so alfredo Feb 2014 #17
I did read the release the other day and I was ROFL at this line Stevenmarc Feb 2014 #19
It might be faster than changing lenses. You can get a alfredo Feb 2014 #20
How the camera looks in the hand. Radical alfredo Feb 2014 #23
Recent interview with the Sigma CEO Stevenmarc Feb 2014 #25
I'd be happy with the design as long as the AF is fast enough for street photography alfredo Feb 2014 #26

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. Am I the only one in the world
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:48 PM
Feb 2014

who cares about having a viewfinder? Maybe it is because I am only learning digital photography (which is so much better than realizing that all your pictures sucked when it was too late to do anything about it), but I find that there are too many times that the light outside makes it impossible for me to see that screen. At those times, the viewfinder is important to me.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. Do you find it harder and harder to find a camera,
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:59 PM
Feb 2014

or is it just my price range that is a problem?

Glad I am not alone...some days, I feel like an antique. (Well, to be fair, I probably am an antique, but that is another story.) At least I have finally put my film camera away.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
4. I haven't shopped for one in a couple of years.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:07 PM
Feb 2014

When I used point-and-shoots I was pretty much wedded to the Canon PowerShot line; they had viewfinders, and I was always pleased with them.

I purchased a Nikon D-5100 a couple years back, and I think the only time I've used the screen for composition is when holding the camera above eye level.

Just habit for me, I think.

alfredo

(60,078 posts)
14. I like the tilting EVF like you can get for Olympus, or the one on the Panny GX7
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:52 PM
Feb 2014


It's a lovely little camera.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
7. YOU ARE NOT the only one. I would not even consider a camera without one.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:31 PM
Feb 2014

I'm old, and have taken photos since I was a teenager. I need my viewfinder and that seems to be that. I have tried 2 point and shoots without one, and have given both of the cameras away.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. I am feeling better.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:34 PM
Feb 2014

I see more and more cameras without viewfinders, and I worry that they are disappearing.

I have a question for you about Picasa, since your suggestion got me playing with it. How do I get a picture that I have worked on out of Picasa to access for posting? Do I just need to set up another email account with gmail? Or is there another way?

Mira

(22,380 posts)
9. Here's how I do it.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:41 PM
Feb 2014

Go underneath the photo once you have edited it and click on "Export" - keep the max size and save it on your desktop with a name or date. I have a folder that is named: Exports to Photobucket.

Then I open photobucket, get the size and album delineated that I want to upload it to, and go get it from it's place on the desktop.

Then just click on the imported photo and get the link.
If that's not clear enough, I'll try again. Just let me know.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. I may have it figured out.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:56 PM
Feb 2014

I was trying to use "share" instead of "export". I will play with it some more. I had to use an original photo in the contest because I couldn't figure out how to get a processed photo out of Picasa.

BTW, I have been having a lot of fun in Picasa. But I feel like I am cheating on a few of the photos where changes have been dramatic.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
16. I do not like cameras that don't have viewfinders.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 01:12 AM
Feb 2014

Personal bias, I suppose, but they don't seem like "real" cameras to me.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
21. LOL, that might be part of it.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 08:10 PM
Feb 2014

Real cameras have viewfinders! Yes!

But I really do have a lot of problems seeing the screen in daylight, sometimes, I see nothing or it is so poor visibility that I have no idea what I am getting in the photo.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
18. I used to care
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:53 PM
Feb 2014

until my faithful canon gave up the ghost and I couldn't find one with a viewfinder that wasn't one of those weird digitized ones. I could see even less with that. I eventually bought a sony camera that I can shift the screen around and that helps to see in outside glares.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
24. The whole point of SLR is that you have a viewfinder that looks through the lens
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:04 PM
Feb 2014

The problem with this design is that both the camera and lens have to be larger. Rangefinder and viewfinder cameras partially overcome this limitation, but you aren't looking through the lens when you are framing your shot.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
5. Sleek design!
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:12 PM
Feb 2014

I like the overall look of it.

I wonder how the balance of it feels? It looks as if it might be front-heavy.

Added incentive to keep the hand under the barrel of the lens, I suppose.

alfredo

(60,078 posts)
12. That's a big consideration for me.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:35 PM
Feb 2014

I like the Olympus EPM2, but the grip is wimpy. I might make my own with self-setting rubber like Sugru.

alfredo

(60,078 posts)
13. The Sigma lenses are very light. I have a 19mm and the 30mm.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:42 PM
Feb 2014

The 30mm stays on my camera. I might get their 60mm this fall, or a better EVF.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
15. I like Sigma
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 11:33 PM
Feb 2014

Their cameras have always been quirky, I like quirky.

Fixed focal length compact cameras aren't for everyone but for people who appreciate that style of shooting with the technical capabilities of the sensor this is a sweet camera.

alfredo

(60,078 posts)
17. Here's the full specs. I like quirky too, but I'm a tightwad, so
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:59 AM
Feb 2014

I have to wait for prices to drop. The Ricoh GR or Fuji X100s would probably be my choices for fixed lens cameras.

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/article/sigma-dp-quattro?utm_source=feb_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=monthly_email

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
19. I did read the release the other day and I was ROFL at this line
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 05:54 PM
Feb 2014

"Take all three with you and select as needed for the perfect shot. Only the dp series puts so much luxurious photographic potential in your hands."

That's one way of dealing with that persnickety fixed focal length, buy 3 cameras.

alfredo

(60,078 posts)
20. It might be faster than changing lenses. You can get a
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 08:01 PM
Feb 2014

D800 body can be had for under 3,000. The Dp's can be carried in the pocket, one in the left, one in the right, and one in your hand. No fumbling to change lenses. I'd be happy with just the 19mm lens for landscape photography. They'd be much lighter than any DSLR kit.

I'd rather carry the Fuji or the Ricoh fixed lens camera, but I'm pulling for Sigma and Samsung. Both are the odd man out. The Samsung NX30 has an innovative EVF.





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