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Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 05:09 PM Jul 2012

It shouldn't be so easy for a private citizen to amass an arsenal: Plain Dealer editorial

Most responsible gun owners don't want criminals or mentally incapacitated people owning or shooting weapons. That's why Glenn Rotkovich's reaction to the bizarre, incoherent home voice mail he encountered after an Aurora, Colo., gunman emailed him in late June about joining his shooting range was to order his employees to bar James Holmes from the premises.

Unfortunately, none of the sporting-goods clerks and online sellers from whom Holmes bought a reported $15,000 worth of weapons, ammo, tactical clothing and other gear over four months got similar insights.
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Congress' failure, after 2004, to renew the federal 1994 assault weapons ban meant it was also legal to purchase large-capacity magazines, including a 100-round drum magazine. ...
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At the very least, national purchase databases, including of ammunition and gear, and laws barring the sale of weapons capable of mass casualties are needed. Yes, determined killers will find a way. But why make it easy for them to commit mass murder?

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2012/07/it_shouldnt_be_so_easy_for_a_p.html

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It shouldn't be so easy for a private citizen to amass an arsenal: Plain Dealer editorial (Original Post) Kolesar Jul 2012 OP
Yet more crickets, pipoman Jul 2012 #1
Exactly. skirt6 Jul 2012 #2
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
1. Yet more crickets,
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 05:49 PM
Jul 2012

not an utterance, regarding the elephants screwing in the corner. Elimination of mental health services for anyone who needs them. This is the most noteworthy change in this debate. This country has always been heavily armed...that has not changed. Since the beginning of the US there have been "mental hospitals", sanitariums, later on "state hospitals" to care for people with mental problems. There were certainly stories of cruelty in these places, most was the best science of the time. Now there is almost no possibility of being treated without a Mercedes full of cash or having committed a crime. Parents and siblings...people who love the person...can't get help for the person until the person does something criminal, then usually not long term help. This is what has changed.

skirt6

(25 posts)
2. Exactly.
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jul 2012

While mental institutions of years past look like torture chambers in the eyes of today, lack of mental health care is rampant and is threatening everyone. Doctors medicate, then move on to the next patient, pushing drugs with horrible side effects, and simply turning the patients out with the hope that they'll do as they're told and take their medicines. This lack of oversight has allowed for an increase in displaced and homeless persons with varying degrees of mental illnesses and now in more recent times criminal activities. I do have some problems with the government tracking all of my purchases, be they guns or toilet paper, and we do have a lot of laws in place making it difficult for some to get weapons. However, we need to implement these laws and not forget that guns aren't what are killing people- Cain slew Abel with a rock... There will always be a way.

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