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douglas9

(4,359 posts)
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:06 AM Jan 2019

Trump Proposes Seizing Land In His Own Personal 'Jade Helm' To Get His Border Wall Built

With the federal government still shut down over funding for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, the President Donald Trump floated an unusual proposition on Friday: Let's just seize a bunch of privately-owned land and have the U.S. military build a wall without those pesky lawmakers in Congress getting in the way.

"We can call a national emergency. I may do it. We can call a national emergency and build it very quickly," Trump stated during a briefing in the Rose Garden following a lengthy sit-down with with Democrats over border security. "Under the military version of eminent domain and under homeland security, we can do it."

"You have to use eminent domain," he added. "If we had one person that wouldn't sell us...then we wouldn't be able to build proper border security because we'd have that big opening."

Trump isn't totally wrong. While the federal government has invoked the principle of eminent domain to build public utilities like roads and highways for decades, the "military version" Trump mentioned likely refers to 10 U.S. Code § 2663, which provides for the acquisition of land for military purposes including "construction, or operation of fortifications, coast defenses, or military training camps."

But at the same time, there are two elements here which may complicate this approach to expediting the construction of a border wall.

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After U.S. Army Special Operations Command sent thousands of troops to the American southwest for the totally normal eight-week training exercise Jade Helm 15, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott ordered the state's volunteer guard to keep en eye on U.S. service members to ensure that this wasn't some Obama-era precursor to martial law. The theory became so widespread that Texas' own lieutenant governor David Dewhurst had to blast his fellow conservatives in an open letter that "suspicion of our fellow troops must stop."

That conspiracy theory, it turns out, was totally false, fueled by Russian bots with a healthy dose of inflammatory fear-mongering from alt-right media.

"Russian bots and the American alt-right media convinced most – many – Texans that Obama planned to round up political dissidents, and it got so much traction that the governor of Texas had to call up the [state guard] to observe the federal exercise to keep the population calm,' former NSA chief Michael Hayden revealed in May 2018.

https://taskandpurpose.com/trump-military-eminent-domain-wall


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Trump Proposes Seizing Land In His Own Personal 'Jade Helm' To Get His Border Wall Built (Original Post) douglas9 Jan 2019 OP
Calling All Bundy-Types!!! Where you gonna be at on this??? ret5hd Jan 2019 #1
If he does get any part of his wall, ginnyinWI Jan 2019 #2
Honestly, if that were to happen, I'd feel a bit of schadenfreude LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #3
In Texas most people who own land on the border don't support the wall LeftInTX Jan 2019 #7
Seizing Private lands...... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #4
It's a bad joke. Scruffy1 Jan 2019 #5
This will not work Gothmog Jan 2019 #6

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
2. If he does get any part of his wall,
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:13 AM
Jan 2019

it's only going to have to be taken down again, at taxpayer expense.

Americans don't want some big wall dividing us from a country that is no threat to ours. It's ridiculous on its face.

He thinks he will have a permanent monument to his "greatness". We will see a monstrosity and tear it right down.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
3. Honestly, if that were to happen, I'd feel a bit of schadenfreude
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:13 AM
Jan 2019

The whole "illegal peril" started with the border ranchers complaining about the trash left behind by the coyote groups. Scumbag opportunists like Sheriff Joe Arpaio capitalized on it and soon they were all screaming "secure the border!"

I always though it would serve them right if the Feds said, "OK, to do that we need to make a patrolled zone 3 miles wide. We're taking your ranch with it's federally subsidized water away. Buh bye."

LeftInTX

(25,796 posts)
7. In Texas most people who own land on the border don't support the wall
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 01:20 AM
Jan 2019

The moaners and groaners are inland near the checkpoints, they are the ones who want the wall.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,897 posts)
4. Seizing Private lands......
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jan 2019

Just because of ego and sheer will , will cause WORSE problems. Emminent Domain has to be handled carefully a d for the right reasons.

Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
5. It's a bad joke.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 08:25 PM
Jan 2019

Without money from Congress it still wouldn't get done. He can give an order if he likes, but nothing will happen. This man is an idiot.

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