Wisconsin
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There is an excellent article in the Cap Times about the effects of removing tenure for UW System faculty from state statutes. The legislature claims they are just moving tenure policy out of state statutes to the Board of Regents, but at the same time they have removed protections afforded TENURED faculty against dismissal for "program changes, financial difficulties", and other purposefully vague reasons. This kills "tenure" no matter what the Board of Regents does.
Academic freedom will be so stunted by the changes to tenure and shared governance at University of Wisconsin System campuses passed by the Legislature's Joint Finance Committee last week that UW-Madison professor Sara Goldrick-Rab says shes looking for a new job...
Allowing university administrators to terminate faculty upon a change in academic programming is code for empowering them to let go whomever they want, and an invitation to misuse, said Goldrick-Rab. The insertion of the word subordinate into provisions on shared government sets into law the interpretation that the role of faculty, staff and students is advisory, something she says she has heard UW administrators articulate many times before. In the past, she and others fought back against that diminished role. Now its in state law, Goldrick-Rab said...
David Vanness, an associate professor in the School of Medicine and Public Health, has launched an online petition asking Regents to restore tenure to its previous status. But Goldrick-Rab said she is uncertain that regents have the power to supersede state law. Whats more, she said, whatever the wording of tenure rights, it is meaningless if faculty are subject to termination under the guise of program changes.
Goldrick-Rab said her colleagues around the UW System are talking privately about leaving. Chuck Rybak, an associate English professor at UW-Green Bay, commented on Twitter: That cheering you hear is Universities around the country making wish lists of UW talent."
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Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Hey,there are openings at the U of Minnesota and all of their State wide campus's.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Sadly, I'm fifty years old and that makes me less attractive as a faculty candidate. Top schools like U of M are usually looking for someone who can give them thirty years or so.
glinda
(14,807 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)was with 3M. The fellow in Personnel preferred U W,U of M,U of Mi,Mich State,U of Iowa,and Purdue. See the pattern. Tell you what,take your skill set to Mpls and St Paul and double your money. Get the hell out of Walkers Night Mare. So many progressive training companies in Minnesota. Sounds like you really love Education and now it's time to use your skill set to better others outside of Education. Did my last career change at fifty,never looked back,had the most fun job in the world. From worst to first,what a ride.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)I know 3M has been a great company for a long time. Problem is the pared their R&D staff way back years ago and haven't really built it back up. I even just did a search on their site for positions.
Believe me, I'd love to get out of here. I'm even a Twins fan already
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Austin,Texas. My department was sold off in 1963,and we were offered a new stint in other R&D next door,that too went bye bye within months. Did not want to leave the upper Midwest just simply due to an area of better Schools for our kids. Great experience with super people to work with. Was not going to live in Texas for the next assignment. Spend the next fifty plus years in and around the Wholesale Food Industry. Loved every second of it. No more Lab experiments blowing up at 3 AM.
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)But then, one must wonder what purpose higher ed serves if their own citizens are so poorly informed as to allow the republicans to take over and trash the state. I know there are many good people in WI and they tried valiantly to undo the Walker wrecking ball, to no avail.
As a former active TAUWP member (now in another state) I am heartbroken to see this happening--although the threats were always there. Right-to-work has now been expanded to include universities.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)There is little if any reason to take a job at the UW now, unless you are a top athletics coach.
HelenWheels
(2,284 posts)to leave. Our family is waiting for the Supreme Courts finding on the ACA. If they rule against it we will lose our health insurance. We have been looking at MN as a new home. It's much more progressive than WI and we would still be close enough to our WI relatives.
riversedge
(70,464 posts)temp job. They make fun of WI. Can't blame them. Live is good there.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)people do what they need to do, or think they need to do - for their careers or whatever.
Emotionally - as a lifelong Wisconsinite, it kind of irks me that people like this are making a big display about their leaving and seemingly don't have the wherewithal to stick it out for the long haul and fight the good fight. Sara, dear - the people, the liberal culture, the organic farms, the bike trails, cooperatives, creative arts - all the things that you loved about Wisconsin and drew you here in the first place are STILL HERE!
Do they think that the Repubs are going to regret going to far and driving out educators from this state? No, they WANT you intimidated and driven out.
Wisconsin has always been kind of a mixed bag - the home of Joe McCarthy and the Posse Commitatus along with the 1960s radical left. The pendulum is not ever going to swing back if everyone bales out now.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:19 PM - Edit history (1)
I have lived in this state for 48 of my fifty years. My parents were 60's lefties. I'm a proud Badger...all of that. I don't want to leave.
BUT... my family comes first and if I have to take lower wages (which I have for my whole career to do this job) then I want (a) the freedom to teach classes as I think best and (2) decent job security. Loyalty is important to me too but most of us are unwilling to be played for suckers.