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Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:17 PM Jun 2015

In the shadow of Paul Martin: Can you trust the Liberals?

Here we go again -- the Red Book 3.0, yet another build-up of Liberal election promises just like the ones we've seen before (though I admit the one about changing the voting system might be hard to dodge). The most infamous, of course, was Jean Chretien's, which he held high and waved at every opportunity in the 1993 election. Co-authored by Paul Martin, it promised the world as we would like it: strong communities, enhanced medicare, equality, increased funding for education, an end to child poverty. You could almost hear the violins playing. But what turned out to be the most remarkable thing about the book of promises was the record number that was ultimately broken: all of them.

The only time you can trust the federal Liberal party is when they don't have a majority -- and even with a minority government they have to dragged kicking and screaming to do anything that does not please Bay Street. This fact needs to be repeated over and over again in the next few months leading up to the election as political amnesia is a dangerous condition to take with you into the voting booth. It's been 10 years since we had a Liberal government and even longer since we had a majority Liberal regime. A trip down memory lane might serve as a curative.


Revisiting the Martin regime

The effect of amnesia as it relates to the Chretien regime (actually the Martin regime) leaves most Canadians recalling Martin as the deficit dragon-slayer, saving us from our profligate, self-indulgent, entitlement culture and getting us back on the road to solvency. A few will actually recall that Martin chopped 40 per cent off the federal contribution to social programs -- but even that memory is diluted by another one: the legendary "debt wall" built exclusively of hyperbole and hysteria over the three years preceding the 1993 election. But few today would credit the fact, documented in my book Paul Martin: CEO for Canada?, that the 1990s under Martin's guidance was the worst decade of the century (except for the 1930s) in terms of growth, productivity, productive investment, employment and standard of living. Unemployment was higher during almost all of Martin's reign than it was as a result of the 2008 financial crisis. But what is worse, this so-called liberal actually made it happen. It was a deliberate strategy, fancied up in policy terms as a commitment to "labour flexibility." The social and economic carnage and the increased personal misery (an additional 300,000 unemployed) was staggering.


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He is all artifice. More than any Liberal party leader in the past 35 years, Trudeau is an empty vessel with little choice but to be filled up by his party's corporate brain trust. Bay Street desperately wants back into the game and the Liberals are their only option. While they have been given lots of goodies by Harper, they have been cut off from their historic role as the principal source of federal policy-making. (Harper doesn't care what they think.) In addition, the federal bureaucracy has been made to reflect the ideology of pro-business "efficiency" to such an extent over the past 20 years, a genuine small "l" liberal would have to replace most of it to get any advice contrary to the status quo.


Good read, 4 paragraphs does not do it justice; the rest at: http://rabble.ca/columnists/2015/06/shadow-paul-martin-can-you-trust-liberals
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In the shadow of Paul Martin: Can you trust the Liberals? (Original Post) Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2015 OP
so does this mean DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #1
His equivalence would be that of a wall street blue dog. Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2015 #2
Thanks for posting this alcina Jun 2015 #3
I am voiting ABC riverbendviewgal Jun 2015 #4
I'm voting ABC51 and NO2TPP OnlyBernieBurnsBush Jul 2015 #5
Yes. I do remember clearly what Paul Martin aka Mr Dithers did to Canadians arikara Jul 2015 #6

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. so does this mean
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:25 PM
Jun 2015
He is all artifice. More than any Liberal party leader in the past 35 years, Trudeau is an empty vessel with little choice but to be filled up by his party's corporate brain trust.

That he will serve to do the same function Obama did? Let people have a taste of liberalism before the sensible type run in?

I know American politics has not had much to be proud of, but at least Bush has been gone, and god willing, will remain gone, but Harper needs to be removed posthaste as he has already changed Canada for the worse.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
2. His equivalence would be that of a wall street blue dog.
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:37 PM
Jun 2015

The Liberal party is an incremental improvement over the Conservatives, but for those that follow the votes, they more often than not vote with the Conservatives on sovereignty destroying hand outs to banks, wall street, and the energy sector and fully support every destructive trade deal. Historically, the Liberal party has campaigned to left and govern to the right. They were going to re-negotiate NAFTA, scrap the regressive GST, and legalize pot 20+ years ago when they were in power.....

I wish the NDP were Tommy Douglas's NDP, but they are not. Still they are the viable alternative to every day working class people, and the establishment media are loathe to admit it.

riverbendviewgal

(4,255 posts)
4. I am voiting ABC
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jun 2015

strategically. I hate Harper. I loved Pierre . Martin not as bad as Mulroney.
I prefer NDP but Liberal or NDP will make me happy. Green is good but not enough of them.

We must stop the harper destruction of our beloved country..

 
5. I'm voting ABC51 and NO2TPP
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:10 PM
Jul 2015

With the current leadership, NDP, Green, and BQ are all good choices. Tory and Liberal are garbage. Unless you're 100% certain that that you cannot get a Duceppe, May, or Mulcair candidate elected, don't vote Liberal.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
6. Yes. I do remember clearly what Paul Martin aka Mr Dithers did to Canadians
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

He was downright evil with his hacking and slashing in the name of the stinking deficit. He set Harper up very nicely to continue the job.

Trudeau is a pretty face, but its looking more and more that's all he has going for him. When he voted for C51 that was the last straw for me, and thankfully I won't have a ABBH choice to make because the NDP is strong in our riding.

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