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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:51 AM Jun 2012

'Online snooping' scheme expected to cost at least £1.8bn

The government's "online snooping" scheme to track email, Facebook, Twitter and other web use comes with an official pricetag of at least £1.8bn and an official warning that the figure may well prove to be an underestimate, the Home Office has revealed.

Ministers have already agreed to pay all the costs of the scheme, which will require phone and internet companies to collect and store for 12 months the records of internet and mobile phone use in Britain for access by police and intelligence services.

The draft communications data bill published on Thursday says the move will cost £1.8bn over 10 years but that an official impact assessment says the pricetag is in line with the Treasury's "optimism bias" that understates the cost of major projects. It adds that the technical complexity of the scheme may well increase the costs and that the estimate does not allow for inflation or VAT.

The former Tory shadow home secretary David Davis accused the home secretary, Theresa May, of proposing an "incredibly intrusive'' scheme that was exactly the same as the proposal David Cameron had attacked when Labour proposed it in office.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/14/online-snooping-home-office-cost

Unless the government are heavily into banjos, which I doubt, I don't think they'd find too much on me.

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'Online snooping' scheme expected to cost at least £1.8bn (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2012 OP
So who is the greatest banjo player of all time fedsron2us Jun 2012 #1
Oddly enough dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #2
Ironically I prefer Old Time American and English fiddle playing fedsron2us Jun 2012 #3
Combination here dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #4

fedsron2us

(2,863 posts)
1. So who is the greatest banjo player of all time
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 05:46 PM
Jun 2012

Don Reno



Earl Scruggs



Come on we know this is what Theresa May and all the nosy parkers in HMG want to know.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. Oddly enough
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jun 2012

I don't play aside from which I don't really like Bluegrass - I prefer Old Time American Traditonal music which means clawhammerstyle etc. I thought I might be regarded as dangerous because I've still got 80 or so banjos quite aside from 30 guitars which I can't play either.

fedsron2us

(2,863 posts)
3. Ironically I prefer Old Time American and English fiddle playing
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 07:59 PM
Jun 2012

to the more 'commercial' Irish style playing which most people seem to favour. I find the rather fancy bowing and fingering of a lot of modern 'Celtic' style music can all too easily descend into showboating if the musicians are not restrained. Bluegrass suffers from that fault (as does a lot of jazz). It can end up all technique and no feeling. If you want here how powerful fiddle playing can be just using the rather unaddorned style you can do a lot worse than listen to some of Jon Bodens playing (born American but grew up in England).



BTW I rather like Dock Boggs rather unusual up picking Banjo style which takes the instrument right back to its African American roots



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I wonder what is Theresa Mays preferred house style for picking.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. Combination here
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 06:55 AM
Jun 2012

From the Transatlantic sessions :



And the classic version from the thirties which I first heard on a 78 rpm in Kentucky late 2002.



The story goes that the tune was first played by Scots pipers to the French as they left the field at the Battle of Waterloo.

I don't really believe that May's taste in music reaches this far. On the subject of house parties Tom Paley is a friend of friend who is the luthier who restores stuff for me aside from being one of the best 5 string clawhammer players in the country. Tom plays often at an old time session in Islington Sunday nights which is how I got to know him. In the knowledge some years back that he'd be performing in the US I arranged for another friend in VA to run a house party which went down a storm.
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