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Related: About this forumToo Easy: How Republicans Would Tear Apart an Unvetted Bernie Sanders in the General Election
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http//www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/5/19/this-ends-now-the-bernie-sanders-opposition-research-the-media-refuses-to-release
For nearly eight months, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders was able to skate by thanks to a willing media in bad need of a horse race on the Democratic side. Sure, it would be a historic first in our country for a woman to be the first ever nominee from a major political party, but that kind of history is so boring. There's no drama in having a clear frontrunner, running a clean campaign, avoiding any major slip ups or scandals all while running against a weak, inept, and single-issue fringe candidate with no real legislative accomplishments to his name. By giving the race the sense of being a "coronation" the networks knew that the majority of viewers wouldn't be tuning it, despite that opportunity to see what the history books will eventually show as being a historical campaign. The media needed drama and the only way to create drama was to create a sense that the race was much more closer than it actually was.
So like the good little Orwellian puppets that they are, our media did everything it could to create a horse race when one never existed. Sanders does well in Iowa and New Hampshire? The media simply ignores the fact that the demographics there play to Sanders' strengths. Sanders gets destroyed in South Carolina? The media simply ignores the fact that it's clear he hasn't won over the increasingly integral African-American voting bloc. Sanders struggles to win over Latinos? The media simply ignores the fact that he is unable to recreate the Obama coalition that was so successful in 2008 and 2012. Sanders wins a handful of states of Super Tuesday? The media simply ignores the fact that Sanders faced an impossible uphill climb to win the nomination from that point forward. Sanders wins 7 out of 8 primaries and caucuses in April? The media simply ignores the fact that Sanders is still down 240 delegates with multiple closed primaries looming. Sanders gets his second upset win in Indiana? The media simply ignores the fact that Hillary Clinton didn't spend any money on ad buys in the state and had already begun to shift her resources for the general election.
Along with simply ignoring basic delegate math, the media also had to bury any stories that made Sanders look bad. Thanks to some clever manipulation by the Sanders campaign themselves, they were able to successfully do this by creating counter narratives to try and justify the campaign's deceitful actions. Bernie Sanders caught stealing information from Hillary Clinton's voter files? Sue the DNC for shutting off the Sanders campaign's own access to their information as a punishment! Bernie Sanders flying to the Vatican to try and pander to New York's Catholic population? Claim it's because you've had a lifelong admiration for the Pope and simply couldn't pass up this opportunity! Bernie Sanders refusing to release more than one year of tax returns? Say that you'll do so when Hillary Clinton releases her full Goldman Sachs speech transcripts! Bernie Sanders' supporters creating a near-riot at the Nevada state convention? Blame the Democratic Party rather than taking responsibility for your supporters and your campaign!
Yet despite the media doing its best to create a sense of suspense, it's now painfully obvious to anyone not stuck in the cult of Bernie that Hillary Clinton will unquestionably be the Democratic nominee for president. Hillary's lead is insurmountable and she has significant leads in both New Jersey and California, the last two major delegates prizes this primary season. Despite being less than a month away from history in having the first ever woman officially clinch the nomination for a major political party in this country, that news is still bad news for the media. That would mean nearly a month and a half of no drama from either Republicans or Democrats which our news media simply cannot have. With Donald Trump now being the unquestioned nominee on the Republican side, it's up to Democrats to create some sort of drama between now and the July convention.
Fortunately for the media, they have a willing stooge in Bernie Sanders to do this.
Goes on to give how BS getting vetted... http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/5/19/this-ends-now-the-bernie-sanders-opposition-research-the-media-refuses-to-release
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Gothmog
(145,965 posts)Sanders has not been vetted and would be a bad general election candidate https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-would-be-insane-to-nominate-bernie-sanders/2016/01/26/0590e624-c472-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Watching Sanders at Monday nights Democratic presidential forum in Des Moines, I imagined how Trump or another Republican nominee would disembowel the relatively unknown Vermonter.
The first questioner from the audience asked Sanders to explain why he embraces the socialist label and requested that Sanders define it so that it doesnt concern the rest of us citizens.
Sanders, explaining that much of what he proposes is happening in Scandinavia and Germany (a concept that itself alarms Americans who dont want to be like socialized Europe), answered vaguely: Creating a government that works for all of us, not just a handful of people on the top thats my definition of democratic socialism.
But thats not how Republicans will define socialism and theyll have the dictionary on their side. Theyll portray Sanders as one who wants the government to own and control major industries and the means of production and distribution of goods. Theyll say he wants to take away private property. That wouldnt be fair, but it would be easy. Socialists dont win national elections in the United States .
Sanders on Monday night also admitted he would seek massive tax increases one of the biggest tax hikes in history, as moderator Chris Cuomo put it to expand Medicare to all. Sanders, this time making a comparison with Britain and France, allowed that hypothetically, youre going to pay $5,000 more in taxes, and declared, W e will raise taxes, yes we will. He said this would be offset by lower health-insurance premiums and protested that its demagogic to say, oh, youre paying more in taxes.
Well, yes and Trump is a demagogue.
Sanders also made clear he would be happy to identify Democrats as the party of big government and of wealth redistribution. When Cuomo said Sanders seemed to be saying he would grow government bigger than ever, Sanders didnt quarrel, saying, P eople want to criticize me, okay, and F ine, if thats the criticism, I accept it.
Sanders accepts it, but are Democrats ready to accept ownership of socialism, massive tax increases and a dramatic expansion of government? If so, they will lose.
Match up polls are worthless because these polls do not measure what would happen to Sanders in a general election where Sanders is very vulnerable to negative ads.
pandr32
(11,644 posts)I don't think many of Sanders' supporters understand these things either. Sanders hardly spent any time explaining them and instead oft repeated his favorite talking points and Hillary smears.
Add to this the fact that Sanders has virtually no experience with foreign policy and we have the following trifecta mentioned in your post, plus one:
-Socialist who made nice with Daniel Ortega and honeymooned in Russia talks of wanting to model super large and diverse America after tiny socialized European countries
-Plans to raise taxes at least $5,000 per year on average working folks--right out of their paychecks, yet economists say his bold plans would require even more funding or blow up the debt by many trillions within ten years even WITH his proposed tax increases
-Plans to grow government and redistribute wealth, and that would likely include to the minorities he attempted to court awkwardly who would be taken out of prisons and given free education, health care, and paid $15 per hour (can you imagine selling that to conservatives? Their heads would explode)
-Has no international experience or reputation other than seeking out handshakes from Ortega and later by ambush--the Pope. If we had more acts of terror in the remaining months, blaming Hillary Clinton for it because she voted for the war in Iraq would only go so far.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)McGovern...Dukakis...Kerry but 10x worse as an avoid socialist makes the target all the bigger..especially one not capable of keeping America safe...this not a fairytale setting...Sanders has never been vetted and the media been holding back...For what reason one should ask themselves...?
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Sanders doesn't even have that going for him. Can you imagine Sanders losing it, when Trump pokes at him a little or trashes Jane? Sanders would be thoroughly bullied by Trump. He doesn't have enough self-control to stay on course in a storm.
sarae
(3,284 posts)It seems like women fare better vs. Trump, maybe because Trump doesn't know how to fight them in a socially acceptable way. Even with Hillary, Trump feels he has to attack Bill to do her any real damage.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)The most toxic thing Republicans can tell American voters is that their taxes will go way up under Sanders.
Financing all that "free stuff" would not come cheap.
Republicans could produce the real numbers, and they would not use the "Bernie Math" calculator.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)I think the biggest blow would be Sanders FEC filings which show the foreign contributions. With Trump already beating the nationalistic message can you imagine what he would do to Sanders. And it already fits right in with Trumps message and base.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Where the heck did they come from and why? What foreign nationals would want to tamper with our election by donating to Bernie? The fact that his campaign did not do the proper paperwork is damning all by itself.
Bernie's campaign started May with only $6 million, and I believe he has paid back less than a million of the illegal contributions. His campaign is going into major debt. Of course, Tad already got his big cut.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)I mean I don't want to sound xenophobic but its been bothering me too. EVEN IF ITS AS SIMPLE AS Canadians giving money, I don't get involved with Canada's elections why should Canadians get involved with us.
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Koinos
(2,792 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)It's really time we all pay attention.