Hillary Clinton
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HILLARY GROUP POST ( but it's a good read for all )
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/the-many-measures-of-hillary-clinton/391239/
Hillary Clintons advisors are annoyed by accusations that shes only adopted economic populism to keep up with Elizabeth Warren. Mrs. Clinton was the original Elizabeth Warren, her advisers say, reports The New York Times, a populist fighter who for decades has been an advocate for families and children. In the Clinton administration, boasted Democratic Strategist Anita Dunn, she had this reputation as being the very left-wing, liberal, Elizabeth Warren type.
Thats true. In the 1990s, Hillary was considered further left on economic issues than her husband, and for good reason. Carl Bernstein has reported that in 1993, when Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen and National Economic Council head Robert Rubin wanted to prioritize deficit reduction over new spending, Hillary told Bill that, You didnt get elected to do Wall Street economics. In 1995, according to Sally Bedell Smith, Labor Secretary Robert Reich convinced Hillary that the Clinton administration should make an issue of CEO pay, something Bill refused to do. George Stephanopoulos called Hillary the most powerful liberal in the White House.
But theres an irony here. If Hillarys advisors are angry that the press doesnt describe her as left-wing anymore, they themselves are partly to blame. Thats because they, and she, have spent much of the last two decades trying to overcome exactly that reputation. In 1993, when journalists suggested that her college thesis on Saul Alinsky proved she was a big government liberal, Hillary insisted that it proved the opposite. Even at that early stage I was against all these people who come up with these big government programs that were more supportive of bureaucracies than actually helpful to people, she told The Washington Post. You know, Ive been on this kick for 25 years. In a 1993 interview with The New York Times, she praised an article by Daniel Patrick Moynihan called Defining Deviancy Down, in which the scholar-senator argued that liberals had become too tolerant of anti-social behavior among the poor. Hillary made Mark Penn, among the most centrist of her husbands political consultants, the architect of her 2000 Senate run and 2008 presidential campaign. And in 2005, she affiliated herself with the Democratic Leadership Council, the New Democratic group with whose views many pundits assumed she disagreed.
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So was Hillary the original Elizabeth Warren? The problem with the question is that Warren is ideologically one-dimensional, while Hillary is not. Warrens political identity is defined almost entirely by her economic views. Hillary, by contrast, looks different depending on which issues you emphasize. When her advisors say shes held progressive economic views for a long time, theyre right. Shes also held a lot of other views, which theyd rather not talk about.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Appears to get ready for a run. If this is true then Hillary knew in 2007 that Bernie was going to run in 2015 when she was:
Outraged at CEO compensation. (Oct 2007)
If anyone followed someone else where Hillary it would be the ones saying these same things.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)I remember reading on DU that Obama never spoke about making college affordable until his SOTU speech in January 2012, and only addressed it then because OWS had raised the topic first.
It took a matter of minutes on Google to come up with dozens and dozens of remarks by Obama on affordable college education made during his campaign, and during his presidency - pre-OWS even being formed.
I think people who come up with these "they never raised it before ____ said it" forget how easy it is to access the information that totally disproves their assertions.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Snapshots. Some insightful, some funny, some simply political drive by political jabs. More objectively, context counts a lot.
Thanks for the post and link to the Atlantic piece.