Hillary Clinton
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For Democrats who are hoping that an alternative to Hillary Clinton will emerge from Iowa, the results of the latest Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register poll of likely caucus-goers doesn't bode well.snip//
People will suggest that this poll was conducted prior to O'Malley's announcement this weekend. And they have a point. He'll likely move up in the polls now that he is an actual candidate. But he's been spending an awful lot of time in Iowa and is still being beaten by VP Joe Biden - who hasn't even tipped his hand about whether or not he's going to run.
Sen. Bernie Sanders is running on the issues that have always made him popular with the anti-establishment left. He's doing a bit better than he might have in the past because Sen. Elizabeth Warren has energized that wing of the Democratic Party lately and he's capitalized on that.
But so far, former Gov. O'Malley has made a political error in thinking that he can vie with Sen. Sanders for the support of that wing of the party. Here's a sample of that from his speech on Saturday
snippet from O'Malley's speech//.. the rest at the link..
"Well, Ive got news for the bullies of Wall Street
The presidency is not a crown to be passed back and forth by you between two royal families."
End snip//
"What a lot of those pundits missed is that the coalition that elected President Obama...twice...is actually the future of the Democratic Party. Mayor De Blasio's huge win in NYC was as much about his promise to end "stop and frisk" for young men of color as it was about his populist economic agenda. The group of (mostly white) populist Democrats who have been receptive to politicians like Warren and Sanders is not big enough to win a presidential election.
So far, Hillary Clinton seems to be the only candidate in the race that recognizes the importance of the Obama coalition. But there are large parts of that coalition that rejected her candidacy in 2008 in favor of Obama and still might be up for grabs if someone would notice. Absent that, Clinton's appeal to establishment Democrats combined with her outreach to the Obama coalition will likely make her unbeatable.
MOre..
http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/06/theres-this-anti-hillary-vote-it-just.html?spref=tw
I remember not too long ago on that thread where African Americans were favoring Hillary(pretty sure it was that thread.. I'll look for it) that they were upset but they had come back to her.
So, this is only June 1, 2015 and one person's opinion.. I don't know if agree with the part about Bernie's campaign only being "energized" by Elizabeth Warren.. but then I'm just on DU. Don't watch tv.
But, this is what I've been saying.. Whomever wins the Dem Nom will want and require(as a friend pointed out) the Obama Coalition. They'll want President Obama to campaign with them and for them. We'll see how this goes.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Hillary's poll numbers and favorably numbers are looking very good. I would think Biden would endorse Hillary and take more numbers from Bernie and expect Warren to endorse Hillary also. This would not leave a lot for Bernie to pickup. Time will tell, they have a big sell job in front of them.
Cha
(298,074 posts)unless they were so afraid she'll win?
Who knows what VP Biden will do.. he and his family are hurting so much now.. but they are surrounded by love..
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/06/01/the-week-ahead-28/
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)supporters is any indication, they can't "sell him", so they've resorted to bullying. That's fine and well, except I ain't the one. I eat bullies for breakfast, as will Hillary Rodham Clinton. The numbers don't lie, no matter how they've been poked & prodded by other campaigns looking for an opening.
sheshe2
(84,070 posts)LeTourneau's
http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/06/theres-this-anti-hillary-vote-it-just.html?spref=tw
You posted Nancy LeTourneau.
Thank you Cha.
I am white. I will vote for the candidate that supports us all. If they do not put PoC and women front and forward, they don't have my vote.
I don't want a white America. I want the United States of America
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)It does not mean we throw up our hands and accept the hate, we will just continue onward. It is a fight worth fighting.
sheshe2
(84,070 posts)I will fight.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Cha
(298,074 posts)wins the Dem Nom will want and need the Obama Coalition and here she's pointing it out, brilliantly.. in just that excerpt you quoted.
"A Tidal Wave Of Good News In Iowa: Hillary Clinton Soaring and Obama Beloved by Democrats"
snip//
Starting off with asking likely Democratic caucus-goers to rate their feelings from very favorable, mostly favorable, mostly unfavorable, or very unfavorable about prominent Democrats, President Obama topped the list of 89% favorable to 9% unfavorable.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/01/good-news-poll-obama-beloved-iowa-dems-hillary-clinton-soaring.html
Clinton is banking on the Obama coalition to win
The moves are part of a strategic conclusion by Clintons emerging campaign: that it can harness the same kind of young and diverse coalition as Barack Obama did in 2008 and 2012, bolstered by even stronger appeal among women.
Her approach outlined in interviews with aides and advisers is a bet that social and demographic shifts mean that no left-leaning position Clinton takes now would be likely to hurt her in making her case to moderate and independent voters in the general election next year
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/running-to-the-left-hillary-clinton-is-banking-on-the-obama-coalition-to-win/2015/05/17/33b7844a-fb28-11e4-9ef4-1bb7ce3b3fb7_story.html?hpid=z1
I remember you posted that just a little while ago! Hillary gets it!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)sheshe2
(84,070 posts)Is unacceptable to me.
I love you Tarheel.
William769
(55,150 posts)If she is the nominee, President Obama will support her because he knows she's up to the job.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Cha
(298,074 posts)wouldn't she!
"Clinton is banking on the Obama coalition to win"
The moves are part of a strategic conclusion by Clintons emerging campaign: that it can harness the same kind of young and diverse coalition as Barack Obama did in 2008 and 2012, bolstered by even stronger appeal among women.
Her approach outlined in interviews with aides and advisers is a bet that social and demographic shifts mean that no left-leaning position Clinton takes now would be likely to hurt her in making her case to moderate and independent voters in the general election next year
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/running-to-the-left-hillary-clinton-is-banking-on-the-obama-coalition-to-win/2015/05/17/33b7844a-fb28-11e4-9ef4-1bb7ce3b3fb7_story.html?hpid=z1
"A Tidal Wave Of Good News In Iowa: Hillary Clinton Soaring and Obama Beloved by Democrats"
snip//
Starting off with asking likely Democratic caucus-goers to rate their feelings from very favorable, mostly favorable, mostly unfavorable, or very unfavorable about prominent Democrats, President Obama topped the list of 89% favorable to 9% unfavorable.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/01/good-news-poll-obama-beloved-iowa-dems-hillary-clinton-soaring.html
Cha
(298,074 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)My lord and little fishes! Not in the reality-based world.
Cha
(298,074 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)I'd back him in a heartbeat. I fully expect his 8% showing to go to Hillary, so that means she's actually over 60%.
Cha
(298,074 posts)Just wish us the best!