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riversedge

(70,476 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:24 AM Jun 2015

Hillary Clinton and Wishful-Thinking Politics

I was under the impression that Hillary was going for the 50 state strategy. Maybe it was my own wishful strategy--unrealistic.




http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/upshot/hillary-clinton-and-wishful-thinking-politics.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&rref=upshot&module=Ribbon&version=origin&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=The%20Upshot&pgtype=article&abt=0002&abg=0
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Hillary Clinton and Wishful-Thinking Politics

JUNE 11, 2015
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Hillary Rodham Clinton at an event in Houston this month. Credit Ilana Panich-Linsman for The New York Times


Brendan Nyhan



Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign took a beating from some pundits this week for telling the truth: She’s going to employ a strategy focused on a narrow set of the most competitive states.

In other words, she’s running as a modern presidential candidate.

Mrs. Clinton’s statement is what’s called a Kinsley gaffe — taking its name from Michael Kinsley, a journalist who said a gaffe is something true that a politician isn’t supposed to say. By conceding the obvious, she revealed the disjunction between the politics we say we want and the kind we actually have.

In reality, her approach is far less different from those of recent candidates than it might appear. No presidential candidate — including Mrs. Clinton’s husband, whose strategy was compared to hers — competes in every state. The reason is the Electoral College, a winner-take-all system that rewards candidates who focus almost exclusively on closely contested states...............

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Hillary Clinton and Wishful-Thinking Politics (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2015 OP
I live in Texas, if Jeb is in the ge then it will be a hard take in Texas, doesn't mean I will not Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #1
I don't see anywhere Hillary rejects 50 state strategy. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #2
Perhaps you are right. But riversedge Jun 2015 #3
I think the NYT is full of it. leftofcool Jun 2015 #4

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. I live in Texas, if Jeb is in the ge then it will be a hard take in Texas, doesn't mean I will not
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jun 2015

be working to gain Hillary votes and doesn't mean she should not work hard in Texas and Florida. Never give up, ever onward.

riversedge

(70,476 posts)
3. Perhaps you are right. But
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:49 AM
Jun 2015


I got that impression from the first paragraph.


Also in the first paragraph was a like to this article that gives it another meaning


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/09/opinion/david-brooks-the-mobilization-error.html?referrer=



The Opinion Pages | Op-Ed Columnist
The Mobilization Error

JUNE 9, 2015


David Brooks


Every serious presidential candidate has to answer a fundamental strategic question: Do I think I can win by expanding my party’s reach, or do I think I can win by mobilizing my party’s base?

Two of the leading Republicans have staked out opposing sides on this issue. Scott Walker is trying to mobilize existing conservative voters. Jeb Bush is trying to expand his party’s reach.

The Democratic Party has no debate on this issue. Hillary Clinton has apparently decided to run as the Democratic Scott Walker. As The Times’s Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman reported this week, Clinton strategists have decided that, even in the general election, firing up certain Democratic supporters is easier than persuading moderates. Clinton will adopt left-leaning policy positions carefully designed to energize the Obama coalition — African-Americans, Latinos, single women and highly educated progressives.


This means dispensing with a broad persuasion campaign. As the Democratic strategist David Plouffe told Martin and Haberman, “If you run a campaign trying to appeal to 60 to 70 percent of the electorate, you’re not going to run a very compelling campaign for the voters you need.”............
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