Hillary Clinton

nolabear

(42,009 posts) Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:18 PM Jun 2015

Hold me.

I used to like DU. What the hell happened? The disrespect for Hillary supporters has all but driven me off, and when I do post I just wait for the shitstorm.

The sad thing is, I'd really respond to an actual discussion of the pros and cons of Bernie and Hillary and their potentials and their foibles, but that seems to be a thing of the past. And I hate to only hang with people with whom I agree, because if it's done well disagreement is a great learning tool. How did this place devolve like this?

Had to get that off my chest in leading up to Hillary's campaign kickoff tomorrow, about which I am very excited. I hope I can come be exited here and will be able to resist the rest of this once welcoming and exciting website.

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Hold me. (Original Post) nolabear Jun 2015 OP

I assume you are aware that most Hillary DURHAM D Jun 2015 #1

I apparently wasn't as aware of that as I should be. Where'd they go? nolabear Jun 2015 #2

We got you back here in this Group. William769 Jun 2015 #5

I wouldn't worry about it. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #3

I know it's silly. It's like seeing the old neighborhood go to hell. nolabear Jun 2015 #4

Hillary supporters are strong, we can weather the storm. Hillary is a cause worth fighting Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #6

Even Skinner has doubts about the direction that DU has taken. onehandle Jun 2015 #7

I saw that. I hope we are more intelligent in victory. nolabear Jun 2015 #9

I certainly won't. onehandle Jun 2015 #10

I know. I really like him too. nolabear Jun 2015 #11

Hang in there! Iliyah Jun 2015 #8

It was just as bad in 2008 question everything Jun 2015 #12

No, President Obama Did Not "end up being a weak President".. I'm an Obama Supporter who Cha Jun 2015 #13

DURHAM D

(32,619 posts)

1. I assume you are aware that most Hillary

Reply to nolabear (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:23 PM

Jun 2015

supporters went elsewhere during the 2008 primary. Most have not returned as DU became more and more unfriendly toward women/feminists.

nolabear

(42,009 posts)

2. I apparently wasn't as aware of that as I should be. Where'd they go?

Reply to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:27 PM

Jun 2015

I'll pack a bag.

William769

(55,151 posts)

5. We got you back here in this Group.

Reply to nolabear (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:34 PM

Jun 2015

After all this is where the cool kids hang out.

If you need anything here, just ask.

William769

Renew Deal

(81,901 posts)

3. I wouldn't worry about it.

Reply to nolabear (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:28 PM

Jun 2015

Most supporters of other Democrats and Republicans know they are on a sinking ship. They are very defensive.

nolabear

(42,009 posts)

4. I know it's silly. It's like seeing the old neighborhood go to hell.

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:31 PM

Jun 2015

I've always been a sensitive sort. It has its drawbacks but it also has its perks. But it makes it hard to have an interesting talk with anyone about politics, which I love doing.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

6. Hillary supporters are strong, we can weather the storm. Hillary is a cause worth fighting

Reply to nolabear (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:38 PM

Jun 2015

and working to get her elected to presidency.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)

7. Even Skinner has doubts about the direction that DU has taken.

Reply to nolabear (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:46 PM

Jun 2015

See this thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11077096

After Hillary has won the primary (my guess is on Super Tuesday next year) things will calm down. That eventuality lets me personally, weather the 'shitstorms.'

nolabear

(42,009 posts)

9. I saw that. I hope we are more intelligent in victory.

Reply to onehandle (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 01:21 PM

Jun 2015

I think it'll be a watershed moment for me to see if Hillary supporters grave dance or shame Bernie supporters. He's a fine man, with wonderful ideas. I just don't think he'd be our best choice.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)

10. I certainly won't.

Reply to nolabear (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 01:25 PM

Jun 2015

I love Bernie.

After this primary, I will be looking forward, not back to this field of vitriol.

nolabear

(42,009 posts)

11. I know. I really like him too.

Reply to onehandle (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:46 PM

Jun 2015

And will continue to do so. I hope his voice is loud and long.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

8. Hang in there!

Reply to nolabear (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 01:06 PM

Jun 2015

question everything

(47,616 posts)

12. It was just as bad in 2008

Reply to nolabear (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:03 PM

Jun 2015

And I was told that 2004 was bad, too. By the time I joined the primaries have already started.

In 2008 I was put on many "ignore" lists and was "advised" that DU is not a place for me. For awhile I was thinking of just staying home if Obama was the nominee but was advised by many cool heads that DU is not exactly the image of the country. I think it was.

Sadly, I think that many of us realized how our predictions came to be true: that Obama, for whom all of voted for in the general elections (we did, right?) ended up to be a weak president with good intentions. That his lack of executive experience and lack of knowledge on how Congress and the White House work was the price to be paid.

Cha

(298,139 posts)

13. No, President Obama Did Not "end up being a weak President".. I'm an Obama Supporter who

Reply to question everything (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:31 PM

Jun 2015

supports Hillary and President Obama. And, I wouldn't have stayed home if Hillary had been the nominee. I would have gotten over it and like Hillary and Obama did .. for our country.

Obama bashing pisses me off.. as does Hillary bashing.. and Bernie's a good guy, too.

And, you can bet Hillary is going to want President Obama campaigning with her and for her in the General Election.

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