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Images that Maduro doesn't want you to see (graphic bloody images state oppression) (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 OP
Perhaps a warning in the subject line? nt bemildred Feb 2014 #1
done n/t Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #3
Spread the word out. This video shows a brief description of what's happening in Venezuela Marksman_91 Feb 2014 #14
Yes, a warning, please. (nt) Control-Z Feb 2014 #2
police kicking students already on ground Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #4
Those cops are nothing but vermin Marksman_91 Feb 2014 #5
Things are getting worse. mecherosegarden Feb 2014 #6
motorizados (chavistas) shoot at students in front of police Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #7
Images SamKnause Feb 2014 #8
I am not sure about source mecherosegarden Feb 2014 #9
I am waiting for SamKnause Feb 2014 #10
1st time I've seen that source. Very interesting El Universal reporting 5 shot Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #12
The right-wing trolls at DEMOCRATIC Underground frequently refer to El Universal, Judi Lynn Feb 2014 #19
looks like you got your answer from Judi Lynn, she supports the paramilitary chavistas Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #21
yep, sounds like the government position as Venanalysis is a gov funded Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #11
That and the myriad of other problems the country faces Marksman_91 Feb 2014 #13
Spread the word out. This video shows a brief description of what's happening in Venezuela Marksman_91 Feb 2014 #15
What's worse is that the government itself has publicly told TV stations not to air anything Marksman_91 Feb 2014 #16
(Graphic) An image of right-wing trolls we really don't like to see ourselves: Judi Lynn Feb 2014 #17
I think your tinfoil hat is a bit tight Marksman_91 Feb 2014 #18
Wait you're saying it's makeup? joshcryer Feb 2014 #20
I invited those who don't believe on what really is going on there , to visit Venezuela. mecherosegarden Feb 2014 #22
the most fervent Chavistas here are those that have never been to Venezuela and who never will Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #23
Back in the era of endless Soviet propaganda about the socialist paradise they had created, such Flatulo Feb 2014 #24
 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
5. Those cops are nothing but vermin
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 05:37 PM
Feb 2014

They don't do shit against common thugs, and yet they have no problem trampling over unarmed students. They're the scum of the earth

SamKnause

(13,114 posts)
10. I am waiting for
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 08:01 PM
Feb 2014

Judi Lynn to post.

She follows all the news in Latin America.

I am not familiar with the source that Bachus used, but he/she always shows their disdain for Maduro and for Chavez when he was alive.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
12. 1st time I've seen that source. Very interesting El Universal reporting 5 shot
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 08:57 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/140211/reportan-cinco-heridos-de-bala-en-manifestaciones-estudiantiles-de-mer


The student protests took place in the Cardenal and Las Americas avenues in Merida, and were attacked by a group of bikers, presumably armed and clearly identified with banners of the Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela , and red and black bandanas covering their faces

reporting 5 shot.


Mérida.- Las protestas estudiantiles que se escenificaron ayer en las avenidas Cardenal Quintero y Las Américas de la ciudad de Mérida, fueron atacadas por grupos motorizados presuntamente armados e identificados claramente con banderas del Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela (PSUV) y pañuelos rojos y negros cubriendo sus rostros.

El lamentable saldo de las manifestaciones que en principio fueron pacíficas, fue de cinco personas heridas de bala, quienes según los estudiantes, fueron blanco de los grupos motorizados, que desde la mañana rondaron la ciudad de Mérida.

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
19. The right-wing trolls at DEMOCRATIC Underground frequently refer to El Universal,
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 02:14 AM
Feb 2014

which seems to exist ONLY to screech daily any and all aggressively derogatory articles regarding any leftist in the Presidency. They were desperate to destroy Chavez, and they're hard at work on the next elected leftist now.

Our own government started "molding perception" in other countries regarding their leftist Presidents long, long ago.

Some introductory material on the very large media owner, Augustin Edwards, in Chile, and his subversive arrangement with the right-wing Richard Nixon cabal during the time of Salvador Allende, then filthy monster General Pinochet, and his evil army of torturers:

U.S. Responsibility for the Coup in Chile (Augustin Edwards, El Mercurio, IAPA)


Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 02:02 PM by Judi Lynn

After Allende's victory, Nixon, Kissinger, Helms, and John Mitchell met on September 15, 1970. Helms came from that meeting with the impression that "Nixon wanted a plan for action that would include a military coup and a broad-based destabilization effort that would 'make the economy scream.'" Helms' notes of the session read, "Not concerned with risks involved. Full time job -- best men we have."57 An additional $6 million was spent over the next three years,58 including $1.5 million to rightist candidates in the March, 1973 congressional election.59 The grand total of $8 to $11 million spend by the CIA since 1970 may have been worth $40 to $50 million after being funneled through the black market.60

On the day that Helms received his instructions from Nixon, the owner of El Mercurio, wealthy Chilean businessman Agustin Edwards, conferred with top officials of the Nixon administration.61 The El Mercurio network consists of newspapers, radio station, ad agencies, and a wire service; it dominates the Chilean media in audience, size, and prestige, and includes the three principal newspapers of Santiago and seven provincial papers.62 In the seven-month period from September 9, 1971 to April 11, 1972 the CIA spent $1.5 million on El Mercurio,63 but the funding also preceded and followed this period. El Mercurio may have been the recipient of almost half of the total CIA expenditures in Chile since 1970.64 In addition to the sort of ads that were used successfully in the 1964 campaign, CIA funding also sponsored mailings before the election on forged Popular Unity stationery to hundreds of thousands of voters. These mailings asked voters to list household goods and indicate whether they would be willing to share with the poor after the election.65 The CIA even purchased a radio station for the right-wing.66 The El Mercurio network was used by the CIA to "launder propaganda, disinformation, fake themes and scare stories which were then circulated through 70 percent of the Chilean press and 90 percent of the Chilean radio. The USIA and the Inter-American Press Association (IAPA) in turn circulated these stories all over the world."67 CIA agents at El Mercurio included Enno Hobbing, Alvaro Puga, and Juraj Domic.68

More:
http://www.namebase.org/chile.html

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CHILE: Media Empires Undermine Pluralistic Democracy
3rd December 2009
By Daniela Estrada
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=49522

SANTIAGO, Dec 3 (IPS) – Chile is a classic example of the concentration of media ownership in too few hands, says Chilean journalist María Olivia Mönckeberg in her latest book “Los magnates de la prensa” (The Press Magnates). If the state does not exercise stricter regulation, democracy itself may be undermined, she warns.

“Today, in the run-up to the celebration of the Bicentennial (of Chilean independence), I think we are facing the worst situation for freedom of expression and ownership of the media, in terms of democracy and pluralism, since the early 1990s,” when democracy was restored after 17 years of dictatorship, Mönckeberg told IPS.

Mönckeberg, who was awarded the National Journalism Prize this year, said concentrated ownership of the media is a worldwide problem, but added that “Chile is a rather special case” because the system is “more tightly closed, and very lightly regulated,” and has been taken over by “extremely right wing” economic groups.

Her book, “The Press Magnates: Media Concentration in Chile”, published under the Debate imprint by Random House Mondadori, was launched in Spanish on Nov. 11 in Santiago.


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Our own mega propaganda through news media got a huge boost from a true dirtbag, Edward Bernays, in case you never had time to read much about him. From his Wiki.:

Edward Louis Bernays (November 22, 1891 – March 9, 1995) was an Austrian-American pioneer in the field of public relations and propaganda, referred to in his obituary as "the father of public relations".[1] He combined the ideas of Gustave Le Bon and Wilfred Trotter on crowd psychology with the psychoanalytical ideas of his uncle, Sigmund Freud.

He felt this manipulation was necessary in society, which he regarded as irrational and dangerous as a result of the 'herd instinct' that Trotter had described.[2] Adam Curtis's award-winning 2002 documentary for the BBC, The Century of the Self, pinpoints Bernays as the originator of modern public relations, and Bernays was named one of the 100 most influential Americans of the 20th century by Life magazine.[3]

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Propaganda[edit]

Main article: Propaganda (book)

In Propaganda (1928), Bernays argued that the manipulation of public opinion was a necessary part of democracy:[14]
The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind

Articles in the journals of opinion, such as the one by Marlen Pew, Edward L. Bernays Critiqued as "Young Machiavelli of Our Time",[15] and the debate between Bernays and Everett Dean Martin in Forum, Are We Victims of Propaganda?, depicted Bernays negatively.[16] He and other publicists were often attacked as propagandists and deceptive manipulators, who represented lobby groups against the public interest and covertly contrived events that secured coverage as news stories, free of charge, for their clients instead of securing attention for them through paid advertisements.[citation needed]

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

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The owner of El Universal, the resource for most troll "news" on Venezuela, Andres Mata, was involved in the scheming and plotting of the coup against the elected, and popular President Hugo Chavez, despised by the true parasitic, pretentious, racist scum of his country, and the U.S. scum right-wing.

Here's a quick look at how entrenched Mata was and is with the parasitic overlords, describing the next step after they removed Chavez from his elected office at gunpoint:

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HUGO CHAVEZ AND THE BOLIVARIAN REVOLUTION
by RICHARD GOTT (Verso Press, 2005)

CHAPTER SIX

THE THREE OPPOSITION ATTEMPTS TO
OVERTHROW THE BOLIVARIAN REVOLUTION

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The coup plotters, anxious to avoid such a possibility, decided to move Chávez away from Turiamo, and he was taken off that day by helicopter to the small offshore island of La Orchila.

In Caracas, meanwhile, isolated in the Miraflores palace, President Carmona had summoned the media owners and editors to a meeting on Saturday at midday. He needed to reinforce his support. Gustavo Cisneros of Venevisión arrived at his office, followed by Alberto Ravell of Globovisión, Marcel Granier of Radio Caracas TV, and Omar Camero of Televen. Also present were Miguel Henrique Otero of El Universal, and Andrés Mata of El Nacional. Cisneros suggested smoothly that the communications strategy of the new government should be left in their hands, a suggestion to which Carmona agreed.

This should have been a moment of triumph for the media moguls, since this was the outcome that they had so strenuously worked for. Yet as they arrived at Miraflores for the meeting, the palace was already surrounded by a huge crowd of Chávez supporters, and soon they heard news of General Baduel’s insurrection in Maracay. The safety of the moguls, and the continuing future of the government, was by no means clear.

Soon Colonel Jesús Morao Cardona, the commander of the president’s Honour Guard, located in a large building across the road from the palace, had decided that the moment had come for him to act. He had watched the events of the previous 24 hours in silence, but now the palace and the surrounding streets, and even the motorway down to the port at La Guaira, were occupied by the population of the hill-top shanty towns. They had surged down into the city to create an immense sea of people demanding the return of their president.

Carmona and his advisers had imagined that his coup had bought the loyalty of the staff of the palace - and of the soldiers who guarded it. This was not so. The staff did their duty, and served coffee when requested, but their hearts were with Chávez. When Colonel Morao’s troops emerged from the basement tunnel that joined his headquarters with the palace, they seized as many of Carmona’s suppporters as they could. Others leapt into their cars and disappeared into the crowds. The humiliating scenes were captured on camera. Carmona himself fled to join the military plotters at Fuerte Tiuna.

More:
http://www.walterlippmann.com/gott-chavez-2005.html
There are some good references made to Mata by F.A.I.R., and Monde Diplomatique.

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Andrés Mata

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Adding something to consider:

Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 07:29 PM PDT.

The U.S., selflessly concerned about democracy in Venezuela, questions integrity of election result

by Justin Zachar

~snip~

It's vitally important for American citizens to understand the simple truth that the U.S. government, like any other government, is not a moral actor in foreign affairs. The U.S. government pursues what it perceives to be U.S. interests. That is it. Democracy, peace, human rights, these ideas are all incidental. A dictatorship that supports U.S. policy is preferable to an elected government that does not. Repression is welcomed if the victims are seen as some sort of potential threat to U.S. interests.

In a functioning democratic culture with an adversarial press, when a White House spokesman proclaims with a straight face that the U.S. has suddenly become irrationally scrupulous about the integrity of a particular foreign election (in which, coincidentally, its preferred candidate happened to lose), the reporters in the room would fall out of their chairs laughing. It's a claim that would be summarily dismissed and mocked by anyone with even a cursory knowledge of U.S. history and foreign policy. The U.S. cares not one iota about Venezuelan democracy and has, in fact, repeatedly demonized it and tried to undermine it. The U.S. cares about itself, as Secretary of State Robert Lansing helpfully explained in 1915, when discussing U.S. intervention in Latin America:

In its advocacy of the Monroe Doctrine the United States considers its own interests. The integrity of other American nations is an incident, not an end. While this may seem based on selfishness alone, the author of the Doctrine had no higher or more generous motive in its declaration. To assert for it a nobler purpose is to proclaim a new doctrine.

Then, as now, U.S. foreign policy was sold to the masses as being purely selfless and benevolent. By this point, though, we should know better. .

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/24/1204629/-The-U-S-selflessly-concerned-about-democracy-in-Venezuela-questions-integrity-of-election-result#

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
21. looks like you got your answer from Judi Lynn, she supports the paramilitary chavistas
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 07:50 AM
Feb 2014

and the police who shot and beat the protesters. Did you expect something else?

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
11. yep, sounds like the government position as Venanalysis is a gov funded
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 08:44 PM
Feb 2014

website. Interesting the article states that students don't give a reason for the protests but then two paragraphs down they give the reason as "insecurity" in other words the huge amount of crime in the country. Ironic indeed given the police and gov supporters beating and shooting at them.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
13. That and the myriad of other problems the country faces
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:58 PM
Feb 2014

Poor infrastructure, scarcity, impunity, lack of payment for many public workers, total collapse of national production on all levels, the list goes on. If this shit keeps piling up, even the barrios will rebel against the government since they're gonna be very pissed at the prospect of not having enough money to buy the food products that aren't even available. The only thing keeping the people from going nuts is that many are still convinced that this is all a tinfoil hat wearer's conspiracy perpetrated by the CIA in league with opposition leaders to try and destabilize the country, but less and less people are buying into the bullshit.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
16. What's worse is that the government itself has publicly told TV stations not to air anything
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:51 AM
Feb 2014
http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/140211/conatel-amenaza-a-medios-electronicos-por-cobertura-de-protestas-en-el

Conatel amenaza a medios electrónicos por cobertura de protestas en el país
"La cobertura mediática que están recibiendo los lamentables hechos de violencia generados en algunos lugares del país pudiese ser considerada violatoria a lo dispuesto en el artículo 27 de la Ley de Responsabilidad Social en Radio, Televisión y Medios Electrónicos", dijo el director de Responsabilidad Social en Radio y Televisión, William Castillo.

Caracas.- El Directorio de Responsabilidad Social en Radio y Televisión, a través de su presidente William Castillo, director General de Conatel, advirtió que "la cobertura mediática que están recibiendo los lamentables hechos de violencia generados en algunos lugares del país pudiese ser considerada violatoria a lo dispuesto en el artículo 27 de la Ley de Responsabilidad Social en Radio, Televisión y Medios Electrónicos".

Castillo se declaró en sesión permanente para garantizar el cumplimiento de la Ley y la defensa del orden constitucional y precisó que "al amparo de la libertad de expresión, plenamente garantizada en nuestro ordenamiento jurídico, algunos actores del espectro radioeléctrico realicen una cobertura mediática que podría o pudiese privilegiar, en tiempo, tratamiento y lenguaje, la promoción de la violencia y los llamados a caotizar la vida pública, por encima de la convocatoria al diálogo, el respeto a la ley y la solución pacífica de los conflictos".

A continuación el texto completo de la Declaración del Directorio de Responsabilidad Social en Radio y Televisión

1.- El Directorio de Responsabilidad Social en radio y televisión, saluda a la juventud venezolana en ocasión de conmemorarse 200 años de la Batalla de la Victoria y Día de la juventud venezolana, y reconoce el hermoso legado histórico de lucha de nuestros jóvenes, que ha permitido la construcción de una patria, libre, independiente y soberana.

2.- El Directorio, como cuerpo colegiado y plural, en el que participan representantes de los diversos sectores de la colectividad nacional, se suma al llamado realizado por el ciudadano Presidente de la República, Nicolás Maduro Moros, a la pacificación y a la construcción de la paz en Venezuela, a través del diálogo, el debate creador y el respeto a la ley. Todas y todos podemos convivir con nuestras diferencias y enfoques, siempre sobre los postulados de la Constitución Bolivariana y en aras de contribuir al progreso y bienestar de la nación.

3.- El Directorio observa con preocupación que la cobertura mediática que están recibiendo los lamentables hechos de violencia generados en algunos lugares específicos del país, por parte de ciertos prestadores de servicios privados, nacionales y regionales, tanto en radio, televisión y medios electrónicos, pudiese ser considerada violatoria a lo dispuesto en el art. 27 de la Ley de Responsabilidad Social en radio, televisión y medios electrónicos que claramente prohíbe la difusión de contenidos que hagan apología del odio y la violencia, los llamados al desconocimiento de las autoridades y a alterar la paz pública.

El Directorio considera de suma gravedad que nuevamente, al amparo de la libertad de expresión, plenamente garantizada en nuestro ordenamiento jurídico, algunos actores del espectro radioeléctrico realicen una cobertura mediática que podría o pudiese privilegiar, en tiempo, tratamiento y lenguaje, la promoción de la violencia y los llamados a caotizar la vida pública, por encima de la convocatoria al diálogo, el respeto a la ley y la solución pacífica de los conflictos.

4.- En consecuencia, el Directorio hace un firme exhorto a todos los prestadores de servicios audiovisuales y medios electrónicos al estricto cumplimiento de la Ley de Responsabilidad Social en radio, televisión y medios electrónicos, sin menoscabo del derecho que tienen a darle cobertura comunicacional a hechos significativos de la vida nacional. El Directorio reitera que la violación o desconocimiento de la Ley acarrea penas y sanciones claramente establecidas y conocidas por todos y todas.

5.- El Directorio de Responsabilidad social en radio y televisión se declara en sesión permanente para atender esta situación y dictar las medidas que garanticen el cumplimiento de la Ley y la defensa del orden constitucional.

6.- Finalmente, el Directorio hace un llamado a todas y todos, ciudadanos y ciudadanas de esta patria, a brindar sinceramente sus mejores esfuerzos para contribuir a la paz, al respeto a la Constitución, y a las leyes de la República Bolivariana de Venezuela.


They REALLY don't want anybody to cover the protests. Why? What do they wanna keep hidden? Could it be the many criminal motorbike gangs that claim to be government supporters who are shooting at protesters and robbing bystanders?

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
17. (Graphic) An image of right-wing trolls we really don't like to see ourselves:
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:04 AM
Feb 2014

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By the way, this is only one of kazillions of ways political perverts paid by scheming a-holes to create the appearance of wounds can create images no one normal wants to see:

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[center]~ ~ ~ REAL situations in the U.S. forced upon innocent people protesting hideous foreign policy by the U.S. Government:





Two black demonstrators killed in the Orangeburg Massacre lie on the ground at the edge of South Carolina State College in Orangeburg on February 8, 1968. Following three days of protests, which began when blacks were barred from entering a bowling alley by the proprietor, state police and national guardsmen confronted demonstrators. Three students were killed and 27 wounded. Photo courtesy of The Associated Press.

http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/reportsitem.aspx?id=100992





Police Open Fire on Anti-War Protestors

April 20, 2003

On April 7, in Oakland, California, police opened fire with "non-lethal" weapons on hundreds of protestors at the Oakland Docks.

Anti-war demonstrators in Oakland had gathered to picket APL, a major shipper of military cargo which as a longstanding relationship with the U.S. military. According to reports, police open fired on the protesters with rubber bullets, wooden dowel "sting-balls," and concussion grenades. Over 50 protesters were injured, some seriously, including numerous workers from local 10 of the International Longshore and Warehouse union. Five workers were taken to the hospital and one required surgery.

According to the New York Times, the shipping companies at the docks had asked the police to break up the demonstration. According to one observer, the police "began shooting at us minutes after their arrival."

http://www.anti-imperialist.org/anti-war-oakland_4-20-03.html

These injuries are genuine, like all the others the U.S. population has seen for so very long.

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El Caracazo massacre, by Venezuelan President Carlos Andres Perez










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Until his death, and even though he was removed from office, Carlos Andres Perez remained deeply beloved by the oligarchy infesting Venezuela.[/center] [/center]

Wiki. definition of "El Caracazo" Massacre

The Caracazo or sacudón is the name given to the wave of protests, riots and looting that occurred on 27 February 1989 in the Venezuelan capital Caracas and surrounding towns. The riots — the worst in Venezuelan history — resulted in a death toll of anywhere between 275 and 3,000 deaths,<1> mostly at the hands of security forces.

The word Caracazo is the name of the city plus the suffix -azo, which implies a blow and/or magnitude. It could therefore be translated as something like "the Caracas smash" or "the big one in Caracas". The name was inspired by the Bogotazo, a massive riot in neighboring Colombia in 1948 that played a pivotal role in that country's history. Sacudón is from sacudir "to shake", and therefore means something along the lines of "the day that shook the country".

Lead-up
In the context of the economic crisis that Venezuela had been going through since the early 1980s, President Carlos Andrés Pérez proposed to implement free-market reforms in his second presidential term (1989–1993), following the recommendations of the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Pérez belonged to the Acción Democrática (AD) party (social-democrat). This programme was known as the paquete — the "package".

Measures taken by Pérez included privatizing state companies, tax reform, reducing customs duties, and diminishing the role of the state in the economy. He also took measures to decentralize and modernize the Venezuelan political system by instituting the direct election of state governors (previously appointed by the President). But the most controversial part of this economic package was the elimination of the gas subsidies, which had long maintained domestic petrol prices far beneath their international levels (and indeed beneath the production costs of gasoline). Upon the elimination of the subsidy, petrol prices rose by as much 100%, and subsequently, the costs of public transportation rose by 30%.

Protests and rioting
The protests and rioting began in Guarenas (a town in Miranda State, some 30 km east of Caracas) on the morning of 27 February 1989,<2> due to a steep increase in transportation costs to Caracas. They quickly spread to the capital and other towns across the country. By the afternoon, there were disturbances in almost all districts of Caracas, with shops shut and public transport not running.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracazo

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
18. I think your tinfoil hat is a bit tight
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:15 AM
Feb 2014

Also, please, do try to watch some of the videos, which show the reality better. I'd like to see how you can discredit those as fake.

mecherosegarden

(745 posts)
22. I invited those who don't believe on what really is going on there , to visit Venezuela.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 09:17 AM
Feb 2014

Go there and see for yourself. Also, while you are there, remember to always look over shoulder cause someone could just shoot you to take your cell phone, your shoes, or the bag of groceries you just bought. If you are driving and you encounter road blocks and your car breaks down, be careful, you could end up dead.If you are riding a public bus,and you see a group of people with guns getting in the bus, start praying that you get out of that bus alive, although you may say goodbye to your belongings. Talk to people there, in person , please, as many seem to be very afraid of saying anything over the phone or online. By the way, the newspapers can't say much as the government changed the law . Wonderful democracy ! Many here believe in an ideology , and if someone who is in power in another country share the same ideology, then here in DU, that person is considered some sort of hero. Open your eyes and see before opening your mouth to insult those who don't believe the same things you do. Venezuela is in pain . Venezuela is bleeding while the bank accounts of those who scream " burguesitos" get bigger and bigger. I wonder who much the beautiful and shinny Rolex that Maduro is wearing cost? How much they spend traveling abroad ? How much are they giving to Cuba? Why are Cuban's soldiers in Venezuela ? Why people don't want to see what really is going on there? Call me troll, call me whatever you wish, I still wish to cordially invite you to visit my beautiful country and see for yourself!

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
23. the most fervent Chavistas here are those that have never been to Venezuela and who never will
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 09:30 AM
Feb 2014

Going there would destroy the fantasy of the perfect government and society for them.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
24. Back in the era of endless Soviet propaganda about the socialist paradise they had created, such
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:03 PM
Feb 2014

people were known as 'useful idiots'. They idolize not just the political system, but also usually the 'father' of the revolution, to the point of sheer blind worship, ala Big Brother. They memorize every iota of friendly propaganda and spew it back, on cue, like a faithful geyser. Their infatuation with bullshit is quite genuine, and there is no possibility of ever getting them to even consider the possibility that everything they is wrong.

It's best to leave such people to their dreams.

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