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Judi Lynn

(160,697 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:30 AM Jun 2012

Bolivian Vice President Confirms Attempt of Coup

Bolivian Vice President Confirms Attempt of Coup

La Paz, Jun 28 (BERNAMA-NNN-PRENSA LATINA) A coup was brewed in Bolivia after the riot police that started last week with the storming of the Operations Tactical Unit, said today Vice President Alvaro Garcia Linera.

"At least six elements that show that there was an attempt to alter the constitutional order in the country, from the police mobilization, influenced by political actors on the right", Garcia Linera told a press conference Wednesday.

Some politicians took advantage of a legitimate economic demand of the police to bring the situation to staggered stages of coup against democracy, said the vice president.

Garcia Linera highlighted elements such as rupture of the democratic state by the police, storming of institutions, the paralysis of government operations and bombings on the Legislative Assembly and the Presidential Palace, seat of the executive.

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http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/newsindex.php?id=676494

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Bolivian Vice President Confirms Attempt of Coup (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2012 OP
Somebody's trying to stir up Latin America Demeter Jun 2012 #1
Or maybe the Bolivians are just very unhappy with the Morales government Zorro Jun 2012 #3
Lol! What a naive view! Peace Patriot Jul 2012 #5
Ho ho ho! Zorro Jul 2012 #6
Then, when, say, a Reagan mounts an illegal war on Nicaragua, Peace Patriot Jul 2012 #8
I certainly can understand why the control of lithium would concern you Zorro Jul 2012 #9
300 police to form a coup is a bit silly. joshcryer Jul 2012 #7
Bolivia with it's vast natural gas reserves boarders the Bush EmeraldCityGrl Jun 2012 #2
Sad K&R. Overseas Jun 2012 #4
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
1. Somebody's trying to stir up Latin America
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:56 AM
Jun 2012

and I don't think it's Chavez, Castro, China, Maoists or even Russia.

Hmmmm, who could it be?Maybe it's the other C word...CIA

Zorro

(15,760 posts)
3. Or maybe the Bolivians are just very unhappy with the Morales government
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jun 2012

Not every political conflict -- in Bolivia or elsewhere -- is caused by manipulation by external players.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
5. Lol! What a naive view!
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:21 PM
Jul 2012

Zorro doesn't think the CIA is fast and furiously glomming onto every little grievance or disturbance that it can glom onto (or instigate) to bring down the vast leftist democracy movement in South America, that has seen anti-U.S. transglobal corporate/war profiteer regimes elected in Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Bolivia, Uruguay, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Peru, Paraguay (until the coup) and Honduras (until the coup) and is now threatening to be elected in Mexico as well!

Zorro doesn't think the CIA is actively trying to get control of all that lithium for U.S. transglobals, doesn't seek control of all those gas reserves that the Bushwhacks tried to hand over to the white separatists in 2008, and doesn't have 'plants' in the police and militaries of these countries, trained and funded by the DEA, et al, or the Pentagon, for these and other purposes.

Ha, ha, ha! Maybe Zorro is making a joke, eh?

Zorro

(15,760 posts)
6. Ho ho ho!
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jul 2012

And Zorro doesn't think the US is preparing for an imminent invasion of Venezuela, or threatening Latin America by reconstituting the Fourth Fleet, or any of the other paranoid conspiracy theories relentlessly promoted by those that see a US boogeyman behind every protest in South America.

Such conspiracy theories are just as ridiculous as the ones Republicants yelp about regarding Obama's agenda to convert the US to a Eurosocialist society.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
8. Then, when, say, a Reagan mounts an illegal war on Nicaragua,
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:40 PM
Jul 2012

funding wanton murders of teachers and mayors by the infamous 'contras' or supports the slaughter of 200,000 Mayan villagers in Guatemala, or a Clinton pours billions of our tax dollars into murdering Colombian trade unionists, teachers, peasant leaders and other advocates of the poor, or a Bush pours more billions of our tax dollars into the same "cause," or stations U.S. Navy vessels off Venezuela during a rightwing coup and congratulates the coupsters on overthrowing Venezuelan democracy, or funds/organizes a white separatist insurrection in Bolivia right out of the U.S. embassy, or bombs Ecuador, or pulls off a stunt like the Rumsfeldian "miracle laptop" or the CIA "suitcase full of money" caper out of Miami, or when the plane carrying the kidnapped president of Honduras out of the country at gunpoint stops at the U.S. military base in Honduras for re-fueling (under Obama's auspices, though I'm still not sure if he approved it), or U.S. agents shoot Indigenous men, women and children in a remote Honduran jungle in the name of the "war on drugs," you must be really surprised.

U.S. interference in Latin America is endemic. It takes many forms, from millions of our tax dollars poured into rightwing causes through the USAID and other agencies, to torture training of LatAm military officers at the "School of the Americas," from dirty tricks to the corrupt, failed, murderous "war on drugs." It is naive NOT to think of the U.S. in ANY potentially destabilizing action against leftist governments in Latin America. It's what the U.S. does. The U.S. government has been actively fighting social justice governments in LatAm for many decades, most especially by funding, training and infiltrating LatAm militaries and police forces. The beneficiaries are the local wealthy elite and U.S. transglobal corporations and war profiteers.

So, to say, "well, it isn't always the U.S.," when there is a protest or disturbance or coup attempt against a leftist government, is to look at Latin America in an upside down, "Alice in Wonderland"-ish sort of way, ignoring volumes of recent and past history. It very probably IS the U.S. government in collusion with local fascists. Or, if it didn't start in an office in Washington DC, it very soon gets U.S. tax dollars and "training."

The U.S. has invaded Grenada, Panama and Haiti--in fairly recent history (Haiti, in 2004, to abscond with its elected president and set him down in Africa). Even Lula da Silva is fearful of the U.S. military. HE said, of the Bush Junta's reconstitution of the U.S. 4th Fleet in the Caribbean, that it "is a threat to Brazil's oil." Why would he say that? Hm? What is the threat? The threat is U.S. military action against a Latin American country--to steal its resources or to add to the Pentagon's "forward operating locations" for what it calls its "Southern Command" or for some other imperial reason.

The threat is there. I did not make it up. The U.S. is constantly trying to interfere in Latin America, to turn democracies into U.S. client states on behalf of U.S. transglobal corporations and war profiteers, and has a long history of doing so. It is naive--or deliberately dense--to deny this reality. It has been the overriding reality in Latin America for more than half a century. I quote Lula da Silva again. In his last speech in office (2010)--after the rightwing coup in Honduras, with Obama in office here--he said, "The U.S. has not changed."

And when Alvaro Uribe was running his criminal organization in Colombia--ahem, the Colombian government--while Bush Jr. was running his in Washington, and when those two criminal organizations got together and secretly signed a U.S./Colombia military agreement to greatly expand the U.S. military presence in Colombia, with Uribe warmongering against Venezuela and Ecuador, and the U.S./Colombia actually dropping 500 lb. U.S. "smart bombs" on Ecuador's border, war between the U.S./Colombia and Venezuela/Ecuador--the two South American members of OPEC! (lots and lots of oil!)--was a good possibility. The Bush Junta had just bombed and invaded Iraq and slaughtered a hundred thousand innocent people for that very reason--the oil!

But this is probably something else you are naive about--what U.S. wars in this era are really for.

joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
7. 300 police to form a coup is a bit silly.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:11 PM
Jul 2012

And I have yet to hear of any punishment for the coupsters. In fact, the police got their raise! I would like for punishment to happen if there was a coup attempt, such things cannot be ignored and must be punished severely. Coupsters get away with it all too often in Latin America.

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
2. Bolivia with it's vast natural gas reserves boarders the Bush
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:15 AM
Jun 2012

property in Paraquay. Bolivia has already signed a deal with Russia concerning those
reserves. Last week the Bush cabal got the Liberal Paraguayan Lugo
deposed by a coup. Lugo can no longer stop the American military base
to be built as he did in 2009.

If you thought these people were going to hang their heads in shame and walk
away think again. These fucking Bush bastards are behind this. IMO.Everything to gain
and alot to lose.

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