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karynnj

(59,511 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:01 PM Jun 2012

This may be the day Scott Brown lost the election

With the Republicans speaking of repeal, the question that Brown, who never has a position on anything before he has to vote, will be asked if he will vote to repeal the ACA. A yes should hurt him with independents - a no will demoralize his base. This really is the "Jesse Helms being chair of SFRC" of this election.

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This may be the day Scott Brown lost the election (Original Post) karynnj Jun 2012 OP
That will be interesting ladym55 Jun 2012 #1
He voted against the ACA. It was why he was elected. beachmom Jun 2012 #2
He got elected because Martha Coakley didn't campaign. MBS Jun 2012 #3
Not sure I agree concerning Warren. Mass Jun 2012 #4

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
1. That will be interesting
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:02 PM
Jun 2012

Given that "Obamacare" is based on "Romneycare" in Masssachusetts. From what I hear, health care access in Massachusetts is much, much improved, and residents are happy with the program.

I don't live in Massachusetts ... so Mass residents, am I right in this?

beachmom

(15,239 posts)
2. He voted against the ACA. It was why he was elected.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jun 2012

Thinking back to the time of Brown's election as a "tea party candidate", Mass. voters felt like they already had their universal health care, and were against its passage (which admittedly was an ugly process at that point with the ridiculous union concessions at the last minute). They specifically voted for Brown to vote against health care reform, and he did. Has anything changed in their feelings since then? Or is it more that a whole lot more people will vote in November, and they aren't the same group that elected him in the first place? I don't know. If he were consistent, then he will say he wants to repeal health care, seeing that he voted against it. He'll probably just take the middle road of "repeal and replace" or some vague language of fixing the parts he doesn't like. He doesn't need to cater to the far Right anymore, so he won't give a hard line answer, but a lame split the difference answer.

I don't think it will cost him. It's more how Warren can frame him in all this. I'm not following the election that closely, but I see it is basically tied at this point.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
3. He got elected because Martha Coakley didn't campaign.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jun 2012

at ALL. (A friend of mine used the apt phrase "political malpractice" to describe her approach to that election. I'm STILL angry. But the good news is that Elizabeth Warren is a much better candidate, and has an important message, so hopefully we can get Brown out of there this time around.)

Mass

(27,315 posts)
4. Not sure I agree concerning Warren.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:16 PM
Jun 2012

She seems to have a hard time getting out of democratic activist clusters to talk to independents. It was fine at the beginning, but by now, it would be nice to be a little more inclusive.

An example, my husband is registered as unenrolled. The Obama campaign has reached out to him times and times again to volunteer in NH. The Warren campaign has not reached out once. Dont they share files of solid Democrats who are not registered as Democrats? (We're moving, so we could not help where we are, but it seems strange to me). I am far from being impressed by her campaigning abilities. Interestingly, I see more and more people feeling the same way. It is time for her to speak to other people and to bring her message to them. If she does, she may have a shot at it, particularly given that Brown is starting to look ridiculous (though well liked, surprisingly). But I am seriously considering unsubscribing to her email list that is totally unsubstantial (I do not care about her birthday or the fact that she baked cookies as a girl scout. I care about what she would vote for or against, and how she would approach local problems).

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