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question everything

(47,599 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:43 AM Jan 2019

If you are using the Qualified Dividends schedule

to calculate your tax, pay attention. Line 8 has a higher value than last year: 77200 vs. 75900 if married filing jointly. Made a major difference in our tax.

I just had to modify my spreadsheets that have served me well for many years. I worked on Form 1040 and Sch. 1 and the SS worksheet and the Qualified Dividends and I thought I was going out of my mind. I thought I had everything there.

For now.

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If you are using the Qualified Dividends schedule (Original Post) question everything Jan 2019 OP
Long term capital gains too are treated the same way, subject to the same thresholds progree Jan 2019 #1
You guys ever hear of Turbotax ? rickford66 Jan 2019 #2
I will be using it for the first time this year. For the past 35 years I used a tax preparer progree Jan 2019 #3
Love TurboTax, I think it cheats in our favor in secret ways, lol. Croney Jan 2019 #5
Of course. Have been using it for years question everything Jan 2019 #6
I use an accountant. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #4

progree

(10,948 posts)
1. Long term capital gains too are treated the same way, subject to the same thresholds
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:55 AM
Jan 2019

0% rate up to $77,200 for Marrieds Filing Jointly (MFJ), the 15%. Pretty sure the dollar threshold is half that amount for singles.

Used to be tied to the top of the ordinary 15% tax bracket (i.e. 0% LTCG and qualified dividend rate for those in the 10% and 15% ordinary tax brackets, then 15% (20% for very high income). Now it isn't coincident with the top of the 15% (now 12%) ordinary tax bracket, which tops out at $77,400, rather than $77,200 for MFJ.

Very fucking strange. At least that's what I'm reading the AAII Journal guide to 2018 and 2019 taxes (December issue) -- they make mistakes sometimes.

We will all be out of our minds before this is all over with.

progree

(10,948 posts)
3. I will be using it for the first time this year. For the past 35 years I used a tax preparer
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 02:01 AM
Jan 2019

Last edited Wed Jan 30, 2019, 02:46 AM - Edit history (1)

but in the past 2 years I don't think he's performing at the level he needs to be performing at. Too many errors among other problems.

For me, its important to understand taxes enough to do tax planning and to know the potential tax ramifications of things I'm considering doing.

I'm nervous about using Turbo Tax -- besides being the first time for me, there will likely be plenty of bugs with all the tax law changes.

Croney

(4,682 posts)
5. Love TurboTax, I think it cheats in our favor in secret ways, lol.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 08:28 AM
Jan 2019

Probably not, but we filed yesterday and were pleasantly surprised. It's like Judge Judy, who says, "You'll never know where I'm going, so don't try to guess, just answer the questions."

question everything

(47,599 posts)
6. Of course. Have been using it for years
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jan 2019

But I always have everything ready so I understand the final results. I do not blindly trust anyone - preparer or a software.

Some 30 years ago we used a preparer. I would actually bring him the forms already filled for him to check and modify and add - if needed. He used to laugh, asking whether he should just plug my numbers.

Yes, I know. Many bring bags and boxes full of receipts.

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