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NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:52 PM Jan 2018

Nuclear Energy Is Not a Solution for Global Warming

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-robock/nuclear-energy-is-not-a-solution_b_5305594.html




Nuclear Energy Is Not a Solution for Global Warming
By Alan Robock
05/12/2014, Updated Dec 06, 2017

There have been several recent calls from people and organizations concerned about global warming to use nuclear electricity generation as part of the solution. This includes The New York Times, the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions (formerly the Pew Center on Global Climate Change), and a group of leading climate scientists, James Hansen, Tom Wigley, Ken Caldeira, and Kerry Emanuel.

Don’t get me wrong. Global warming is real, it is caused by human emissions of greenhouse gases, it is bad (as described in detail by the new National Climate Assessment), and we have to do something about it. But solar and wind power, combined with increased efficiency and conservation, can do the trick. Elimination of exorbitant government subsidies to the nuclear and fossil fuel industries, and a gradually increasing carbon tax, fee and dividend, or a cap and trade system like the one that worked to tame acid rain, will push us to do the right thing.

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But nuclear power presents many downsides. These include:


1) Nuclear weapons proliferation. A plant for processing fuel for a typical nuclear reactor could produce enough highly enriched uranium for 10-30 nuclear weapons per year. Waste reprocessing could produce 30 plutonium weapons per year. Nuclear power, partly due to the ill-conceived Atoms for Peace program, preceded the spread of nuclear weapons to India, Pakistan, Israel, and North Korea, and Iran appears to be trying the same route. While additional nuclear reactors in existing nuclear states would not be a problem, proliferation of nuclear power around the world would only exacerbate the problem of nuclear weapons, and this is the greatest danger the world faces.

2) Possibility of catastrophic accident. Based on the 20 core melt events that have occurred in military and commercial reactors worldwide since the early 1950s, including Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima, Lelieveld, Kunkel, and Lawrence showed that the risk of catastrophic nuclear accidents has been drastically underestimated. They showed that the risk of human exposure to dangerous radiation from nuclear accidents in eastern United States, virtually all of Western Europe, and East Asia is higher than once every 50 years. Nuclear reactors are built, operated, and regulated by humans, and humans make mistakes. Accidents can happen not just from meltdowns, but from earthquakes, tsunamis, and aircraft accidents.

3) Possibility of terrorist attack and radioactive release. None of the nuclear reactors in the United States are guarded against terrorist attacks. The spent fuel, now being stored outside the containment vessels, would be an easy target, and sophisticated terrorists could also cause a meltdown.

4) Unsafe operation. In the United States, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has a cozy relationship with the nuclear industry, resulting in poor oversight and enforcement of rules. The industry has a for-profit culture that emphasizes profit over safety. There are planned and unplanned radioactive releases during routine operation. There is lax enforcement of fire protection rules at nuclear plants. And there are no viable evacuation plans should accidents happen.

5) Not economically viable. Nuclear power is incredibly expensive. It could not even exist in the U.S. without huge government subsidies, including insurance against accidents. Too cheap to meter, a claim when nuclear power was first being developed, was a fantasy.

6) Waste disposal problem not solvable in near future. For political reasons, there is no repository for the spent fuel, which accumulates at each nuclear power plant, just waiting for an accident to happen.

7) Extraction of uranium very damaging. Uranium mining exposes workers to lung cancer and the surrounding areas to contamination. In the U.S., it is Native Americans who suffer disproportionately.

8) Nuclear power emits 10-20 times the carbon dioxide as wind power. Mining, processing, and transportation of nuclear fuel is energy intensive.


Proponents of nuclear power, recognizing these dangers, propose new “safe” future generation technology (which does not now exist), assembly line production of standard designs, and continued operation of existing plants that are already beyond their 40-year design lifetime in the United States. I certainly agree we need research into new nuclear technologies, to see if they are a real potential solution sometime in the future. But solar and wind energy is here now. In the meantime we need a rapid move away from coal and into solar and wind sources of green energy.
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Nuclear Energy Is Not a Solution for Global Warming (Original Post) NeoGreen Jan 2018 OP
I agree janterry Jan 2018 #1
Bullshit. You pick your poison. hunter Jan 2018 #2
this is incorrect Merrill1066 Dec 2018 #3
 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
1. I agree
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jan 2018

I know that lately it has been called green. But to me, the risk is so great that it can't be green. There are safer energies out there - I want to end nuclear reliance.

hunter

(38,350 posts)
2. Bullshit. You pick your poison.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 07:22 PM
Jan 2018

Outside of coal, the worst is a natural gas with supplemental solar and wind.

I'm a Luddite, I hate them all, but nuclear power is not the devil that fossil fuels are.

You can move away from the worst possible sort of nuclear accident and nature will abide.

The same can't be said of deadly greenhouse gasses and air pollution.


 

Merrill1066

(4 posts)
3. this is incorrect
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 11:35 AM
Dec 2018

I suggest you watch the documentary film "Pandora's Promise"

The film was created by left-leaning people, many of whom have been involved in environmentalism. It will make you reconsider nuclear power.

More people die every year from coal power worldwide than have died from nuclear accidents since the very beginning of nuclear power in the late 1940s/early 50s.

Fourth generation breeder reactors that recycle their own fuel and cannot "meltdown" offer safe, clean energy. The IFR project never should have been shut down in the 1990s.

Solar plants in places like Germany run on natural gas backup like 50% of the time (or more). They are not efficient, and that gas comes from Russia. Likewise, solar and wind cannot provide even 10% of the world's energy needs going forward, even with massive expansion.

As far as mining goes, coal mining is a hundred times more energy intensive than mining for things like Uranium.

We can continue to pollute the world and embrace impractical and unrealistic solutions, or we can continue with nuclear research, expand nuclear power, and clean up the atmosphere and environment.

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