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Rhiannon12866

(206,963 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 05:07 AM Jul 2023

Did Climate Change Make This American City Unfit For Human Habitation? - Thom Hartmann



Climate Change has caught the world on fire. The floods, record breaking temperatures and even mass migration & even wars, are just the opening bell of a much bigger conflagration. This truly is a climate emergency, and every day that goes by without significant action further endangers the future of almost all life on Earth, including us...

The only question left is how long until politicians and the rich can no longer ignore that their beds are burning too? Or if the politicians and the rich won’t act, how long before the people take action into our own hands? - Aired on 07/24/2023.



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Did Climate Change Make This American City Unfit For Human Habitation? - Thom Hartmann (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jul 2023 OP
I agree, except that about half the population does not see... TreasonousBastard Jul 2023 #1
What he talked about was people actually being burned, it's gotten that bad in some places Rhiannon12866 Jul 2023 #2
I heard the skin grafts bit. My problem is that huge group that... TreasonousBastard Jul 2023 #3
Same here. Rhiannon12866 Jul 2023 #4
Yes, the 2000 election Lulu KC Jul 2023 #5
Nor have I. Mickju Jul 2023 #7
The M$M Never Properly Framed The Fight Over Global Warming/Climate Change modrepub Jul 2023 #6

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. I agree, except that about half the population does not see...
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 06:14 AM
Jul 2023

the problem and will fight it. How many jobs hinge on the burning of dead dinosaurs? That will be a big issue.

Rhiannon12866

(206,963 posts)
2. What he talked about was people actually being burned, it's gotten that bad in some places
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 06:18 AM
Jul 2023

I guess we're lucky so far here in the Northeast. It's hot out there, but I haven't heard of anyone being burned - yet.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. I heard the skin grafts bit. My problem is that huge group that...
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 06:21 AM
Jul 2023

doesn't hear it, or much else. Or doesn't even care.

Rhiannon12866

(206,963 posts)
4. Same here.
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 06:27 AM
Jul 2023

The more I hear about the current dangers caused by climate change, the more I regret that we didn't have a second Jimmy Carter term followed by two terms of President Gore - who was likely the actual winner if they hadn't stopped counting the votes. Our history on so many levels would have been much different.

modrepub

(3,505 posts)
6. The M$M Never Properly Framed The Fight Over Global Warming/Climate Change
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 08:44 AM
Jul 2023

Back in the 90s when the real serious discussions of the impact of rising CO2 levels due to fossil fuel burning were occurring the media never seemed to get the existential fight going on between 2 behemoths of industry. The fossil fuel companies who had trillions of dollars in assets vs. the insurance industry who would inevitably be impacted by changing climate and the inability to use stable climate data to project future insurance liabilities. We all know who won that battle.

The failure of the M$M to ever get beyond "is it getting hotter?" completely ignored the economic implications of our decision to basically do very little to alleviate our fossil fuel burning addiction. In some part I guess it's a failure of humans to let go of the world we know because it's entrenched in our being (fossil fuel extraction, production and sales related employment) versus imagining (and implementing) fields that do not exist (solar and other renewable economies) but for in the far future.

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