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NJCher

(35,932 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 02:51 PM Aug 2023

Heat Waves Are Killing Older Women. Are They Also Violating Their Rights?

NY Times no paywall link at end of snip.

Kudos to these women. The importance of their action is that it gives an "additional tool to name and shame these states and make their grievances visible and, eventually, enforceable."

Please note the case was filed a few years ago; it is now being heard. There was an even earlier iteration in 2016:

Heat Waves Are Killing Older Women. Are They Also Violating Their Rights?

A group of Swiss women over 64 have filed a lawsuit against Switzerland with Europe’s top human rights court, saying the country has violated their rights by failing to curb emissions.

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“This will have a domino effect,” said Annalisa Savaresi, a senior lecturer for environmental law at the University of Stirling, in Scotland, who has studied climate change litigation. “It’s the first of its kind to be heard, but there are many others in the pipeline.”

The litigants in the Swiss case include four women who said they had heart and respiratory diseases that put them at risk of death on hot days.

The crux of the complaint is a charge that the Swiss government’s failure to reduce greenhouse gas emissions enough to prevent global warming of 2 degrees Celsius is at odds with its obligations under the European Human Rights Convention. Those include rights to life and autonomy, given that older women have been proved to be particularly vulnerable to heat-related illnesses.

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A ruling in the KlimaSeniorinnen’s case (poster's note: KlimaSniorinnen means Senior Women for Climate Protection Switzerland) is not expected until 2024. The court is also considering several other climate change-related cases, including one filed by a group of young Portuguese who have accused 33 countries of not upholding their human rights obligations by failing to curb emissions, and by a French citizen who has brought a similar case against the French government.

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No paywall link to NY Times story.

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Heat Waves Are Killing Older Women. Are They Also Violating Their Rights? (Original Post) NJCher Aug 2023 OP
how much time did they spend in gas guzzler cars and using coal generated electricity? nt msongs Aug 2023 #1
who is "they" ? NJCher Aug 2023 #2
This is ridiculous and counterproductive BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #3
I think you missed a crucial paragraph in the story NJCher Aug 2023 #4
What might that be BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #5
 

BlueIn_W_Pa

(842 posts)
3. This is ridiculous and counterproductive
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:20 PM
Aug 2023

Global climate change is just that - global.

Suing a local government for CO2 emissions saying the climate is warming over your head is ridiculous. It doesn't work like that, and it looks frivolous. It's like the farmers in the south who sued to stop a solar farm for fear of taking the local sunshine away. [link:https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/town-kills-solar-farm-project-fear-ll-consume-183909281.html|

For example, California could try to go to zero CO2, but it won't stop China, and it wouldn't stop CA from warming either. If each state were in its' own bubble of air, sure, but that's not reality.

 

BlueIn_W_Pa

(842 posts)
5. What might that be
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 04:05 PM
Aug 2023

"The crux of the complaint is a charge that the Swiss government’s failure to reduce greenhouse gas emissions enough to prevent global warming of 2 degrees Celsius is at odds with its obligations under the European Human Rights Convention. Those include rights to life and autonomy, given that older women have been proved to be particularly vulnerable to heat-related illnesses."

1990
Global = 22,717 MTon
Swiss GHG = 46 MTon, or 0.20%

2021
Global = 37,857 MTon
Swiss GHG = 35 MTon, or 0.09%


The Swiss can mathematically never, ever do anything to prevent 2 degrees, and cannot be held accountable in any reasonable sense of the word unless you want to say they are responsible for 2 degrees * 0.09% or 0.002 degrees.

[link:https://edgar.jrc.ec.europa.eu/report_2022|

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