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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:10 PM Jun 2012

(Climate Progress) Must-Read: Scientists Uncover Evidence Of Impending Tipping Point For Earth

Must-Read: Scientists Uncover Evidence Of Impending Tipping Point For Earth
By Climate Guest Blogger on Jun 10, 2012 at 2:42 pm

JR: If we stay anywhere near our current greenhouse gas emissions path, we will cross many climate tipping points this century. There’s the nearby tipping point for an ice-free arctic, with all that means for making our weather much more extreme and for triggering another tipping point, the rapid loss of carbon from the permafrost. There’s the tipping point for the “self-amplifying” disintegration of Greenland and, after that, an ice free planet (though we’d cross the point of no return long before the full melting ever happened). Other lines are blurrier: Dust-Bowlification looks to be a continuous process. But the key point is that the changes that occur are largely irreversible over an extended timeframe (see NOAA stunner: Climate change “largely irreversible for 1000 years,” with permanent Dust Bowls in Southwest and around the globe).
We’re near 400 parts per million atmospheric concentration of C02, rising 2+ ppm a year (a rate that is projected to rise as emissions increase and carbon sinks saturate). While no one knows the exact line of demarcation for the various tipping points, the latest science suggests that if we go substantially above, say, 450 ppm we risk starting the chain of events, while going substantially above 500 ppm seems downright suicidal (see links below). We are, sadly, on track for 800 to 1000 ppm this century, which would be the end of modern civilization as we know it today, according to the most recent science. Long before then, however, we’ll cross all the big tipping points. Indeed, as Dr. Tim Lenton explains in Scientific American, ”The worse case would be that kind of scenario in which you tip one thing and that encourages the tipping of another. You get these cascading effects.”
A major new study has been released on tipping points in Nature, “Approaching a state shift in Earth’s biosphere” (subs. req’d). The news release is reposted below.


UC Berkeley professor Tony Barnosky explains how an increasing human population, coupled with climate change, could irreversibly alter Earth’s ecosystem. (Video produced by Roxanne Makasdjian)
by Robert Sanders, via UC Berkeley News Center



A prestigious group of scientists from around the world is warning that population growth, widespread destruction of natural ecosystems, and climate change may be driving Earth toward an irreversible change in the biosphere, a planet-wide tipping point that would have destructive consequences absent adequate preparation and mitigation.

“It really will be a new world, biologically, at that point,” warns Anthony Barnosky, professor of integrative biology at the University of California, Berkeley, and lead author of ...


http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/06/10/496039/must-read-scientists-uncover-evidence-of-impending-tipping-point-for-earth/
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(Climate Progress) Must-Read: Scientists Uncover Evidence Of Impending Tipping Point For Earth (Original Post) kristopher Jun 2012 OP
I'm pretty sure we've already past it... truebrit71 Jun 2012 #1
I feel worse for the Politicalboi Jun 2012 #2
Ummm! Aren't we also wildlife? longship Jun 2012 #5
The new "Domino Theory" HubertHeaver Jun 2012 #3
Hope you aren't implying this is phony. kristopher Jun 2012 #4
No, insolent one. HubertHeaver Jun 2012 #9
It's called a positive feedback loop NickB79 Jun 2012 #6
You need to get your head out of the clouds. HubertHeaver Jun 2012 #10
Sorry, there are a lot of trolls on this board NickB79 Jun 2012 #11
Now you gone and made me feel guilty HubertHeaver Jun 2012 #12
Excellent point, and welcome to the E/E board! NickB79 Jun 2012 #13
Game over, man. Game over! NickB79 Jun 2012 #7
See also… OKIsItJustMe Jun 2012 #8
Here's a piece of info from the article that should be giving us nightmares GliderGuider Jun 2012 #14
That's a very good point ... Nihil Jun 2012 #16
The full "Nature" article is available here: GliderGuider Jun 2012 #15
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
1. I'm pretty sure we've already past it...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jun 2012

...we now have to figure out how to exist in the 'new' earth....

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Ummm! Aren't we also wildlife?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:12 PM
Jun 2012

There's plenty of evidence for this, most of which is evidenced in pop culture and reality TV, most prominently, the Kardashians.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. Hope you aren't implying this is phony.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jun 2012

The Domino Theory was extremely poor analysis used to justify US intervention in Vietnam. If you are drawing a parallel with that you are way off base. The science behind the OP is some of the strongest work that humans have produced.

NickB79

(19,301 posts)
6. It's called a positive feedback loop
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jun 2012

Very well-known in the scientific world. Perhaps you should visit sometime.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
12. Now you gone and made me feel guilty
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:18 PM
Jun 2012

Apology accepted. Original post was a bit fuzzy with the Viet Nam reference implied by the service ribbon.

Ecologically speaking, we do not know what tiny organism (or group) that initial block represents. But, when it gets 86'd, there is no stopping the chain reaction.

NickB79

(19,301 posts)
7. Game over, man. Game over!
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jun 2012

Time to expand the garden and plant a few more edible trees and shrubs. I have a feeling my family will need them in the future.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
14. Here's a piece of info from the article that should be giving us nightmares
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:08 AM
Jun 2012

From the article:

Currently, to support a population of 7 billion people, about 43 percent of Earth’s land surface has been converted to agricultural or urban use, with roads cutting through much of the remainder. The population is expected to rise to 9 billion by 2045; at that rate, current trends suggest that half Earth’s land surface will be disturbed by 2025. To Barnosky, this is disturbingly close to a global tipping point.


Using the bacteria analogy, they're saying that the human experiment is one single doubling away from completely filling our petri dish. The problem is, it's not just population that's the problem. It's human activity in general, or what we so fondly call "growing wealth".

If our appropriation of Earth's resources is directly proportional to global GDP rather than simply our population numbers, then on our current track the Earth could be fully utilized by humans in less than 30 years.

It's time we started getting poorer in a hurry.
 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
16. That's a very good point ...
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 04:33 AM
Jun 2012

> Using the bacteria analogy, they're saying that the human experiment is
> one single doubling away from completely filling our petri dish.

Considering the previously posted graphs about the population growth over
the last half-century, that is pretty scary ... for those with eyes to see, etc..

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
15. The full "Nature" article is available here:
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:47 AM
Jun 2012
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v486/n7401/full/nature11018.html

There's a link to the pdf on that page too.

It's worth reading the whole thing - it's not too long, only 6 pages. But what pages they are!
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