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Related: About this forumFukushima #2 temperature rising, workers more worried about #2 than #4(feared to fall over soon)
Looks like the temperature in #2 has been rising the past few days.
http://enenews.com/fnn-temperature-rising-at-reactor-no-2-pressure-vessel-video-fukushima-worker-more-worried-about-this-than-reactor-no-4
It says that workers are more concerned about #2 than #4, which lost 8.5 tons of water the other day.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101442570
Reactor #4 is the building that is feared to topple over soon. It has spent fuel rods as well as the reactors fuel rods(it was under repair at the time of the accident).
http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2012/01/transcript-thom-hartmann-paul-gunter-latest-fukushimaofficials-declare-cold-shutdown-no
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)It's been almost a year of day-to-day seat on the pants attempts to stave off disaster and they still don't know exactly what they're dealing with, let alone have it under control!
Who is paying for all this work?
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)AFTER the nuclear melt-down catastrophe, a construction company mined aggregate and gravel from a pit in the "no-go" zone to make concrete.
Oooopsie....who could have known??
Now there are scores of new buildings (meant to house displaced Fukushima residents) with foundations that are radioactive. Your apartment's floor and walls contaminated with the gift that keeps on giving!
Nice.
bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Tea, electronics, rice and even used automobiles are on the list.
Detectors at ports of entry are finding some of it and their cargo ships are being turned away.
I hope the U. S. ports are being diligent.
I'm buying NOTHING from Japan if I can help it. That they are doing this, is criminal.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)The temparature has risen a lot more than one degree making your post appear extremely ignorant.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)My mistake.
FBaggins
(26,795 posts)Workers are more worried about #2 than #4... not because something incredibly dangerous is going on at #2... but because nobody buys the "#4 is about to collapse!!!" nonsense that has been going around the internet fearmongering sites since (wait for it) at least last May. The actual collapse has been "reported" multiple times.
The temperature has been rising in #2 according to only one of the three thermometers in the reactor. The other two continue to show a 44 degree reading. While I suppose that could be an error in the equipment, their speculation seems more reasonable. Recent plumbing changes probably altered the flow inside the reactor. Not exactly a sign of impending doom. If anything, it further demonstrates that the nuts proclaiming a china syndrom with the core still burning its way to the water table... still don't have a clue.
There's also a difference between the SFP in #4 leaking water (not that 9 tons is very much), and a leak in the decontamination equipment servicing #4. The volume of water keeping the spent fuel cool there may not have altered at all.
This leaves the OP with precisely nothing of note worth worrying about. Not that irrational paranoia requires something actually worth worrying about.
bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)FBaggins
(26,795 posts)Nonsense of course.
bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)FBaggins
(26,795 posts)True, the temperature is rising... but the post clearly leaves the reader with the impression that:
1) #4 is in imminent danger of collapsing (spilling fuel rods, restarting nuclear fission and making much of Japan uninhabitable)... and
2) because workers are more worried about unit 2, the danger implied by the temperature increase must be even greater than that.
Neither is true (or even close to it).
bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)All I've seen are images showing it is still leaning.
FBaggins
(26,795 posts)A building is in danger of imminent collapse unless someone can show that it isn't?
Why isn't the burden of proof on the nuts who have said since last May that it's going to collapse any day now? How about the guys late last year who announced that an entire side had already collapsed and the SFP spilled onto the ground (and several people had already received fatal doses)??? Or in September that it was on fire after an earthquake?
The portion above the refueling deck is visibly damaged and they've been cutting it away. Have you seen any evidence that the structure beneath the SFP is weakened to any dangerous extent?
bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)FBaggins
(26,795 posts)Let me know once you look it up.
bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)Your not doing very good at your pro-nuke lobby job. Your are suppose to quote me something like "3 CAT Scans per year are safe".
FBaggins
(26,795 posts)I can explain any big words if that's the problem.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)So yeah, I don't think it is going to fall.
http://www.neimagazine.com/story.asp?storyCode=2060289
FBaggins
(26,795 posts)But nothing stops the speculcation that the real disaster could happen at any moment now.
bluecoat_fan
(262 posts)What a joke!
FBaggins
(26,795 posts)The joke is that you are immune to correction... no matter how wild the error.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Maybe that looks rickety to you, but it's in concrete footings and the Japanese know a hell of a lot about quake-resistant construction.
The latticing, etc, serves to distribute stresses, which is very important if you get a lot of lateral shear.
Mind you, they originally concluded that the support structure was strong enough to survive another quake on the order of 3/11, but I approve wholeheartedly of the decision to reinforce.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)and call the doctor in the morning.
What are they getting all het up about?
All the trolls here insist that nuclear is safe, perfect and wonderful.
They'd let their own babies and kittens play at Fukushima.
BeFree
(23,843 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)FBaggins
(26,795 posts)I remember clearly how we were told last march that the corium would burn unstoppably through all containment and into the ground beneath the reactors... until it hit the water table and caused a massive explosion.
I sure that someone predicted it would take a year or more.