Environment & Energy
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In the United States, we are supposed to have a representative system of government. Youd never know it from looking at Congress and climate change, though. Consider the results of a recent poll of 1,000 registered voters that was commissioned by the Sierra Club and conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner (GQR).
GQR found consistent, clear majorities are concerned about climate change and favor action to mitigate it. Sixty-six percent of respondents said climate change is a very or somewhat serious problem. Fifty percent said the federal government should be doing more to address climate change, 23 percent said it is doing about the right amount, and only 19 percent said it should be doing less.
These views were just as strongly held, or more so, among key groups of swing voters that decide the outcome of presidential elections. Sixty-nine percent of self-identified moderates, and 67 percent of Midwesterners, said climate change is a serious problem, and 54 percent of moderates said the government should be doing more about it.
Naturally, the liberal-leaning constituencies that are widely credited with helping President Obama win the last two elections and that Republicans have said they want to make inroads among are also concerned about climate change and supportive of taking action against it. Eighty-six percent of Hispanics and 77 percent of Millennials say climate change is a serious problem, while 66 percent and 60 percent, respectively, say we should be doing more to address it.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Americans want.
Lip service at election time is pretty much what we get.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)no more lip service for us.
hatrack
(59,601 posts)I'm sure that will galvanize the global community into action.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Words! Words! Words! I'm so sick of words!
I get words all day through;
First from him, now from you! Is that all you blighters can do?
......
Sing me no song! Read me no rhyme!
Don't waste my time, Show me!
......
Don't talk at all! Show me!
Never do I ever want to hear another word.
There isn't one I haven't heard.
.......
Say one more word and I'll scream!
.......
Please don't "expl'ine," Show me! Show me!
Don't wait until wrinkles and lines
Pop out all over my brow,
Show me now!
(Thank you, Lerner and Loewe!)
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Just look at universal background checks, raising the minimum wage, tax dollar give-aways to big oil and thousands of other issues.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)We've changed the system some and have made progress towards becoming a representative democracy, but the fact is we are in the midst of a centuries long struggle for economic equality. Some, not understanding that, engage in constant attacks on the representatives of the party that is pushing against the current in the direction of equality. IMO that response is little more than cutting off your nose to spite your face. We'll accomplish nothing by weakening the party as a whole.
All I'm saying is that we need to keep the spotlight and pressure on those like the Kochs who are directly responsible for the distortions in the system.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)In a new Op-Ed for the Wall Street Journal, Jon Cowan and Jim Kessler of the Third Way think tank warn that Democrats will only win if they ignore the recent success of Mayor Bill de Blasio and Sen. Elizabeth Warren and reject economic populism.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Attack those who are causing the disease and the symptoms will take care of themselves.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)There is a HUGE difference and you only serve the interests of the right wing by obscuring that philosophical difference. Again, keep the pressure on the disease and the symptoms will take care of themselves.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)"If people have to choose between a real Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, they'll vote for the real Republican every time." ~ Harry S. Truman
kristopher
(29,798 posts)If you work on putting a face to the 1% and how they are screwing everyone else, the rest will take care of itself. The philosophy of the Dem party is diametrically opposed to the right wing agenda and the Republican party.
Every time you convince someone there is no difference you are doing the work of the Republicans and their 1% masters.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... what I do is remind people that our Party is supposed to be very different, and that when that gets eroded by conservatives like the Third Way it weakens us. Our strength comes from advocating very different policies. We get weaker when we advocate Republican-like policies.
We are, however, greatly weakened by folks like yourself, who try to stymie all criticism of the Party.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)And when you depress the vote, the 1% wins every time.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)We're not going to win by trying to peel of the mythical "moderate Republican". We'll win by advocating for progressive policies.
See Elizabeth Warren, or Tammy Baldwin, for examples.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)You spend your time attacking, not promoting.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)I will continue to attack every Third Way corporate Dem who compromises our Party's principles. If you don't like it, I have to wonder why.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)This statement is what I'm responding to.
I don't question your intent, just saying the execution needs better targeting.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)As I wrote, we've made progress from a structure of "representative democracy" where the Upper House was, by design, composed of the elite and given the lion's share of power within the policymaking structure.
We've struggled to expand the vote from a sliver of the population to universal suffrage, and in the process won the right to elect popular representatives to that body. That is the way we have wrested resources from the one percent.
Now they are using different tactics but it is still that same group struggling for control. Focus your attention on them and the message of economic justice and stop attacking the party that is philosophically aligned with what you want.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024483079
quadrature
(2,049 posts)no commercial or general aviation
for members of congress.
you have to start somewhere.